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This week at LWN: LinuxCon: x86 platform drivers
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Well said.
I've often wondered as well about all the whining about the "bloated" kernel.
If you are really that concerned about all the unneeded drivers built in, recompile it!
Any more I rarely bother to thin down my kernel. More often I recompile to enable drivers I need that aren't enabled by default, and usually don't bother to disable anything when doing so.
I've often wondered as well about all the whining about the "bloated" kernel.
If you are really that concerned about all the unneeded drivers built in, recompile it!
Any more I rarely bother to thin down my kernel. More often I recompile to enable drivers I need that aren't enabled by default, and usually don't bother to disable anything when doing so.
Since most drivers are compiled as modules which only get loaded into memory as needed, the only drawback to having them is their taking up disk space. With modern disks, that's hardly a problem.
With modern disks, that's hardly a problem.
'Xactly.
Geez, some of the comments I read about "bloat" make it sound like their hard drives are 1 gig museum pieces and every byte has to be evaluated for a place on said drive.
'Xactly.
Geez, some of the comments I read about "bloat" make it sound like their hard drives are 1 gig museum pieces and every byte has to be evaluated for a place on said drive.
But..but..I need MORE SPACE! Every bit counts!
/me looks innocently at his 6TB fileserver
/me looks innocently at his 6TB fileserver
> ...make it sound like their hard drives are 1 gig museum pieces...
I believe I have our original 40MB hard drive from my wife's first Gateway desktop around here someplace. It still worked when we disconnected it. :)
I believe I have our original 40MB hard drive from my wife's first Gateway desktop around here someplace. It still worked when we disconnected it. :)
640 megs should be enough for any one.....
640 megs, thats luxury mate, i used to live in a shoe box in the middle of a road, work 27 hours a day with just 512 megs.
I remember my old Win 3.1 box with a 107-mb hard drive, and using some kind of winderz compression program to cram more stuff into it. It ended its days as a dedicated swap drive for Red Hat.
My first computer had 2K of RAM.
Now get off my lawn!
Now get off my lawn!
That beats me this was my first computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX81 plus the rampack with added wobble as a bonus.
"Welcome to another round of MINE'S OLDER AND LESS POWERFUL THAN YOURS!"
Excuse me -- I think I'll sit this one out.
Excuse me -- I think I'll sit this one out.
lol.
My first personal machine was a Leading Edge 486slc 25 with 4MB? of RAM and a 120MB hdd they said would "last forever" (hah! I proved that wrong quickly).
We had an Atari 800 before if that counts...and a Tandy Color Computer 2, though I don't recall it getting used much (just that it used tapes..one of which ended up getting used as an audio tape iirc).
I have an ADAM in the basement now that someone gave me...I've never hauled it out to play with though.
We had an Atari 800 before if that counts...and a Tandy Color Computer 2, though I don't recall it getting used much (just that it used tapes..one of which ended up getting used as an audio tape iirc).
I have an ADAM in the basement now that someone gave me...I've never hauled it out to play with though.
Timex-Sinclair 2000 w/ Ram pack
then:
Commodore 64, Ram expansion, 1541 disk drive, & Geos OS
... none of the above in 1 step.
then:
Commodore 64, Ram expansion, 1541 disk drive, & Geos OS
... none of the above in 1 step.
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This is why I get so irritated at people who bemoan and get runny noses over the "bloated" kernel, or "bloated" anything for that matter. What you might consider "bloated", I might consider feature-rich. My 2.8 gig quad core with 8 gigs of RAM likes all the bloat you can throw at it. Much of that "bloat" I count on for a good computing experience. On the other hand, someone with an old IBM T30 appreciates the fact that the function keys work when called upon. Matthew and others see to it. Is that "bloat"?
So Matthew, I don't know what they pay you and others like you, but I doubt if it's enough. Thank you for removing the lip-bitting and hand wringing when we put a live CD in to show it to a new user. I know you must often have the words "Louisville Slugger" and "knees" in your private thoughts when dealing with the slugs at Sony. Just know that if nothing else, people out here appreciate, I mean really appreciate your work.