Update to Trinity KDE 3.5 fork brings improvements

Jazz, I'd love to see Trinity as one of the options offered by openSUSE during installation......

Quoting:At 56MB memory in idle mode, Trinity is lighter than XFCE (76MB), and much lighter than Razor-qt (139MB) and KDE (201MB).

139MB for RazorQt seems kinda high to me. I've got it at 98MB, according to Conky, in Wheezy with a lot of bells and whistles. Maybe the author used KWin, whereas I'm using Openbox as the window manager.

For all the Lovers and Haters of the KDE3 family ( smile-grin-smile )

http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::5120

Francy,

While it's all well and good that someone created a PCLinuxOS remaster, the ISO you are pointing to is behind a paywall.

Nevermind. I signed up for one of their free accounts. However, I can't figure out how to actually download the PCLinuxOS remastered ISO file. Do you think you could ask FileFactory if they could make their interface more unintuitive?

Here is how to access/download the file/iso. Enter the URL in the address bar of your browser. (( http://tatata )). Next, on this first page, scroll down. Choose the red slow download. The page will change and you should see the seconds ticking away. The page will change again. Look at the bottom and click:'click here to download now'. The rest is routine.

My download took 90 minutes, but hey, for that price But I agree with your unspoken remark, the ISO could have been hosted on a more appropriate site.

I just have installed and updated and added programs without any problems. One on 32 bit hardware One on 64 bit hardware

So far so good. I want to update the kernel to a kernel.pae ( 6Gb memory )

I let you know if anything goes wrong.

Have fun

Grin grin grin

As soon as the mirrors have finished synchronizing, the PCLinuxOS-TDE-non-official will be available from the Trinity website.

Just to let you know.

3 hours and 10 minutes to download the ISO from the FileFactory site. It was worth the wait, though.

I was wondering why the ISO is so large. Now I know. Whoever remastered this threw the kitchen sink at it. I've got a bit of uninstalling packages to do. It's very pretty and fairly responsive.

Francy, thanks for posting the link.

@djohnston I found that uninstalling is a lot more difficult than installing. Of course, I am talking for my self on my hardware and my " unwanted " programs. However, I think I am going to be better of in the beginning if I create a brand new Menu with just what I want and leave the original menu hidden, and all the unwanted programs just where they are.

Whatever....I am really enjoying myself now.

The only thing that I want to know for now , is: How can I learn to do it myself.

Any ideas or any links-to...?

Uninstalling is not that difficult. Synaptic has dependency checking. Just look at what else will be uninstalled when you make a selection and go from there.

Quoting:The only thing that I want to know for now , is: How can I learn to do it myself.

Do you mean remastering? Learn to use the CLI tool /usr/sbin/mylivecd. Run mylivecd --help as user root for the list of options. And, before you start, make sure the options you want for each new user are already set up in /etc/skel.

There are a lot of mylivecd threads on the PCLinuxOS forum. Do a search from the main forum page.

@djohnston

First, apologies for expressing myself poorly. I am aware of the remastering tool, and have done it a few times, with poor results. I read on the forums how to do it, but there was always " something ". So, I stuck so far with backups, either dd or clonezilla .

But what I was thinking about, was more like starting from scratch.

Then it downed on me, that there was a site LFS ( Linux from Scratch ) and BLFS ( Beyonf Linux From Scratch ).

As I am in the position of having ample time available, I think I am going to do some reading first.

Small explanation: After installing a standard distro, I always find myself uninstalling up to 70%, ( except PCLinuxOS-Minime = very good, imho ) followed by installing about 30 applications I am used to ( etc etc ).

So, for the LFS thing, wish me 'stamina', ... I don't need the luck !..... grin grin

You might find Crunchbang worth a look. http://crunchbang.org/

Or Bodhi http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/doku.php

They're both oriented to a minimilistic approach.

@BernardSwiss

Thanks for the tip. I am aware of Bodhilinux and will have a look at Crunchbang later on, but, It's more about < DIY > as anything else Grin Grin

Thanks for the reply

> After installing a standard distro, I always find myself uninstalling up to 70%

You sound like the ideal Arch user. :)

Many years ago, Debian "Woody" I think, the minimalistic bootable business card (<45MB iso image) still worked. And it would give an alarm, but not error, if there was no network available.

So I'd end up with a <45MB Debian install, with Busybox and some other serious short-cuts that would be deleted/overwritten right away.

Hand-edits of /etc/apt/sources.list (to Sid) and /etc/network/interfaces to get the thing connected, and apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade would bring the system into working order with no cruft at all.

A nice way to start. I've always liked the idea of LFS, just never felt like taking the time to do it.

Using Debian is like going to the biggest Chinese Buffet in town.

> would anyone want to keep an old clunker?

Why does everyone think they need to run out and purchase the latest greatest? I got two 10+ yr old P4 Vaio desktop boxes that work fine. Why toss 'em for new when they still do the job? I can surf, email stream vids, print, scan, play music, edit photos, etc. WTF else do I need to do? I'll trade up when they die, but I see no great advantage to dumping more garbage on the planet when these "old clunkers" do exactly what a new whiz-bang box will do, only a tad slower.

I'm no luddite, having jes purchased a new Plantronics cordless headphone and a new Brother laser copier/printer/fax machine, but why toss perfectly good equipment. Makes no sense. Heck, my newer Asus netbook gathers cobwebs while I flog these "old clunkers" unmercifully all day long. ;)

Notbob, it took 7 years for me to change desktop machines, so I know exactly what you mean.

Getting off the Windows/Intel upgrade treadmill is difficult for some people.

For those who're liking Trinity: the 3.5.13.2 release is now official -- http://www.trinitydesktop.org/

I'm currently running my network monitor (so, running 24/7 and always showing etherape no matter what else it's doing) as Trinity-3.5.13.2 over Ubuntu-12.04LTS, and finding the Trinity part far more to my liking than the Ubuntu part (no OSS, so no /dev/dsp, which breaks some scripts using wavplay; and random hard freezes -- never while I'm watching, so the screensaver might be involved -- requiring a hard reset to get working again). I'll probably redo this box with Trinity on Debian if I can find where I put my Round Tuit.

exegnuLinux 4.2 is out. It's darn fast on my comp, compared to other TDE releases. http://exegnulinux.net/

So noted, thanks. I'll suck in the ISO tonight and have it ready when I've got some time to mess with the machines again.

Please note: I -didn't- say the other TDEs are slow. This one is just faster,,,here ! YMMV.