Open Recall: A Linux gun, Steam fun and Slax's new boot
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I'm still not understanding what justifies bashing the entire article and all journalists. It's a highly-integrated custom system, the tracking system controls the trigger, and Linux controls the tracking system. You can't remove or swap out the tracking system in the same way you can swap scopes on a traditional rifle. A human finger is required to pull the trigger far enough to fire-- but it won't fire if it's off-target. The only role the human plays is to select the target and choose the moment to shoot. So which facts are misrepresented?
> I'm still not understanding what justifies bashing the entire article and all journalists.
All journalists? The actions of professional journalists over the past several decades. I didn't bash the article, as I had no interest in it and didn't read it.
All journalists? The actions of professional journalists over the past several decades. I didn't bash the article, as I had no interest in it and didn't read it.
tuxchick wrote:You can't remove or swap out the tracking system in the same way you can swap scopes on a traditional rifle.
You can't? Why not. What's to prevent it? Magic? Executive Order? Perhaps not the quick-change way, but it can certainly be done the usual way, with tools. That's how I swap scopes on my rifle.
Since it seems to be the self perceived journalists in this little inbred group who are most outraged at my admitted overzealous attack on their fellow wordsmith, let's look at it. Yes, the term "power" can extend to include "control". So, why didn't the Ars author use the phrase "linux controlled gun"? It would have been infinitely more accurate and perfectly acceptable. You seem to have groked it. I suspect it's for the usual journalistic reason, simple unadulterated sensationalism. Accuracy vs sensationalism? Well, we know which will win that showdown. Always does. Isn't it a journalistic imperative, sensationalism over accuracy? Certainly seems so.
What do you think the multitudes think when they read that headline, "Linux Powered Rifle"? Do you think they immediately think to themselves, "The author undoubtedly means "controlled", as a journalist would in no way misrepresent the facts!". Yeah! As if.
No, I would guess the typical non-geek reaction is, "There's linux in guns!! Whacko crazy massacree nutbags are gonna be using linux to cut down our loved one's in the aisles!" I suspect you think I'm wrong. Well, I think you are hopelessly naive.
By the way, if a targeting system, no matter how complex, can be attached to a gun, it can be removed from that gun and if a Winchester .300 magnum is not a traditional rifle, I'm sure thousands of traditional hunters would like to know how and why their Winchester .300 magnums seem to be working jes fine with nary a spec of linux within miles. ;)
"Controlled by" seems like a stronger phrase to me than "powered by", notbob. I think you are just needlessly nitpicking, perhaps just kneejerking at the whole Linux + rifle thing. Guess what ... there's Linux in nuclear submarines too.
Oh, I'm sure linux is part of more weapons systems than we realize. And I'm sure there will eventually be a "linux powered rifle". Electronic triggers and primers have been developed and even produced for limited applications. Rifles that have integral chips and sensors and make decisions to determine if a breech is clear or of the ammo count in a magazine are not science fiction. But, when someone says "powered", in today's vernacular, it typically means something like a gas powered lawn mower or electric powered knife. It means the motivating power, not the limiting or controlling power. What powers that rifle is human muscle and some springs and we are talking about that rifle in that article and it is jes plain misleading, whether you think so or not.
I can see where a buncha geeks automatically equate "controlled" with "powered", but the fact is, that rifle can be disconnected from that sighting system and will work just as it works without that sighting system. I will not call that rifle "powered" by linux. In fact, I'll go so far as to say it is "limited" by linux, as it is still human muscle that is holding, operating, and ultimately providing the motivating force that fires that rifle. We can all get bogged down in semantics, but I think it's the unqualified headline of that press piece that bothers me and how the great unwashed will perceive it.
This is all jes my opinion, so let's let it go at that and I'll refrain from any further comment after you all dog pile me. ;)
I can see where a buncha geeks automatically equate "controlled" with "powered", but the fact is, that rifle can be disconnected from that sighting system and will work just as it works without that sighting system. I will not call that rifle "powered" by linux. In fact, I'll go so far as to say it is "limited" by linux, as it is still human muscle that is holding, operating, and ultimately providing the motivating force that fires that rifle. We can all get bogged down in semantics, but I think it's the unqualified headline of that press piece that bothers me and how the great unwashed will perceive it.
This is all jes my opinion, so let's let it go at that and I'll refrain from any further comment after you all dog pile me. ;)
Quoting: All journalists? The actions of professional journalists over the past several decades. I didn't bash the article, as I had no interest in it and didn't read it.
Are you trying to look foolish, or being so subtly satirical it's undetectable? notbob, all I think is 'why did I waste my time reading this excitable fool's ravings again.' Dinner at notbob's house: "Please pass the salt." "NOOOOOOO YOU ARE RUINING CIVILIZATION ITSELF WITH YOUR INSANE DEMANDS" + 500 more loud foamy words.
The good news by employing your logic I can say that all men are irrational dunces. Sorry guys, but that's what jdixon and notbob say.
tuxchick wrote:"NOOOOOOO YOU ARE RUINING CIVILIZATION ITSELF WITH YOUR INSANE DEMANDS"....the above are not illogical foamy words?
Must be a journalistic thing. ;)
Hmm. Incorrect cut and paste. Corrected.
> Are you trying to look foolish, or being so subtly satirical
Neither. I am stating openly what the effect of the observable biases (and actions taken because of those biases) of professional journalists has done to my opinion of them over my lifetime. Of course there are exceptions. But most people never encounter them.
> Are you trying to look foolish, or being so subtly satirical
Neither. I am stating openly what the effect of the observable biases (and actions taken because of those biases) of professional journalists has done to my opinion of them over my lifetime. Of course there are exceptions. But most people never encounter them.
Wow this Is So incredibly geeky a huge Venomous argument over a single Word. Looks like situation normal
Personally, I want a linux-powered gun.
My Windows gun is fine, most of the time, but the minute I really need it -- to down a charging moose or fend off rampaging zombies, the thing slows down to a crawl and tells me to update my anti-virus.
Wouldn't be so bad if any of the free gunlets that came with it were worth a cr@p, but you've got to pay for the upgraded versions to spit out anything more potent than peas.
My Windows gun is fine, most of the time, but the minute I really need it -- to down a charging moose or fend off rampaging zombies, the thing slows down to a crawl and tells me to update my anti-virus.
Wouldn't be so bad if any of the free gunlets that came with it were worth a cr@p, but you've got to pay for the upgraded versions to spit out anything more potent than peas.
dino, it almost sounds like you may have the actual article. Weirdo.
Watch it, tc.
You give me too much lip and I'll upgrade one of those gunlets! Might have to wait a few releases for the damned thing to shoot straight, though.
You give me too much lip and I'll upgrade one of those gunlets! Might have to wait a few releases for the damned thing to shoot straight, though.
Good luck keeping up with the random UI overhauls.
Just don't ask him how much he paid for it (or what it takes to keep it operational).
@BS --
the joke's on you. I got it for free, pre-installed on my reactionary conservative politics.
the joke's on you. I got it for free, pre-installed on my reactionary conservative politics.
I'm quaking in my boots.
Please don't fire that thing while I'm within ten meters.
What? Right... Please don't fire that thing while I'm within thirty feet -- No, I don't care which direction you're pointing the dang thing (just let me withdraw to a prudent distance before you pull that trigger.
Please don't fire that thing while I'm within ten meters.
What? Right... Please don't fire that thing while I'm within thirty feet -- No, I don't care which direction you're pointing the dang thing (just let me withdraw to a prudent distance before you pull that trigger.
@bs -
Trigger? I should be so lucky.
Damn thing is all Metro or Surface or whatever they call it. I tap a tile and hope for the best. Looks good, though.
Trigger? I should be so lucky.
Damn thing is all Metro or Surface or whatever they call it. I tap a tile and hope for the best. Looks good, though.
Enjoy it while you can, Dino. Rumor has it that it will be banned in by executive order soon.
@jd --
Ballmer's going to wise up?
Ballmer's going to wise up?
> Ballmer's going to wise up?
Let's hope not. :)
Let's hope not. :)
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