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Did Microsoft send the wrong guy to Massachusetts' ODF hearing?
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Hey guys you're starting to be like Slashdot
Duplicate entries are currently on the front page under different headings.
Peragrin: Seems like it. But one article is an eidtorial and the other is newswire.
Now, with regard to the comment about Slashdot, you aren't referring to the article about the Twelve Monkeys? Are you. I mean ten days in Microsoft jail?
That had some /. isms in the comments.
; )
Now, with regard to the comment about Slashdot, you aren't referring to the article about the Twelve Monkeys? Are you. I mean ten days in Microsoft jail?
That had some /. isms in the comments.
; )
Considering they both link to the exact same article to make the exact same points. The editorial takes items from the article.
The editorial paragraph is the 7th one in the article.
Now granted i like the topic. I think it's really well written. but it is a dupe.
The editorial paragraph is the 7th one in the article.
Now granted i like the topic. I think it's really well written. but it is a dupe.
peragrin: It's not an intentional duplicate. Sam has followed this situation since day one as he was the marketing lead for openoffice.org. He went to the hearings, consulted and lobbied for this. He has editorial privileges as a feature's section writer here.
The story itself came through our queue. After screening the article we put it into the workflow process and it goes through the newswire - as do our features. As I worked the queue, I decided to process the article.
Not much else to relay.
The story itself came through our queue. After screening the article we put it into the workflow process and it goes through the newswire - as do our features. As I worked the queue, I decided to process the article.
Not much else to relay.
On the bright side, no one has suggested this site is like ZDNet. :) This is a great place for getting the latest news... and if occasionally there is overzealousness concerning a topic... then at least it is better than the other extreme.
Corriher: Thanks!
Well It didn't look right to me but it wasn't my decision.
Tadelste tried to explain it to me, but I still can't tell the difference. Oh well, at least this site looks better. And you can customize it if you desire. That part is really cool. At a quick glance you can see if your logged in or not.
Tadelste tried to explain it to me, but I still can't tell the difference. Oh well, at least this site looks better. And you can customize it if you desire. That part is really cool. At a quick glance you can see if your logged in or not.
This site is wicked fast. Content and dupes be damned! Fast and simple is refreshing enough in itself in this day and age... :-)
sbergman27 --
I agree completely, though a little disturbed by the fact that fast and simple also described my dream date back in college...
I agree completely, though a little disturbed by the fact that fast and simple also described my dream date back in college...
Dean,
For some odd reason this reminds me a bit of one of my favorite exchanges from the 1968 movie "The Lion In Winter":
Henry II (Peter O'Toole): Eleanor, you're like a democratic drawbridge, going down for everyone...
Eleanor of Aquitaine (Katharine Hepburn): At my age, there's not much traffic any more....
For some odd reason this reminds me a bit of one of my favorite exchanges from the 1968 movie "The Lion In Winter":
Henry II (Peter O'Toole): Eleanor, you're like a democratic drawbridge, going down for everyone...
Eleanor of Aquitaine (Katharine Hepburn): At my age, there's not much traffic any more....
Why must read?
The ramifications are enormous. People may see this as more than an inflection point.
From the article:
Microsoft may see Massachusetts as just one state with 80,000 employees across 173 separate agencies along with a handful of contractors that it can let go. But, if you take a step back to look at the volume of diligence that the Commonwealth undertook before it made its decision final — most all of which is public, you can't help but wonder whether Massachusetts just created an online wizard that will make it easier and less expensive for other governments to embark on similar projects. Lest Microsoft think other governments aren't paying attention, it may want to consider who launched the Government Open Code Collaborative (Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Utah, Kansas, Missouri, West Virginia, and the cities of Gloucester [MA], Worcester [MA], and Newport News [VA]) in June of 2004 and how the current list of GOCC members and observers has blossomed well beyond the founding group.
Not only is the GOCC clearly keeping an eye on things in Massachusetts (see this call for participation from the GOCC), judging by a presentation given by Massachusetts Information Technology Division (ITD) policy and architecture director Claudia Boldman, the Commonwealth considers its involvement in the GOCC an integral part of its overall open standards initiative (not to mention that the presentation was given at the Conférence surles Logiciels Libreset les Administrations Publiques in Quebec, Canada and one can only imagine who else was paying attention!).
Take the digital ecosystem that lives around Massachusetts' 173 agencies and multiply that times some number of other states. Throw in some cities and counties and then a dash or two of corporations that see a reflection of themselves in what those governments are doing, and suddenly, instead of a defector, Microsoft has an exodus on its hands.
From the article:
Microsoft may see Massachusetts as just one state with 80,000 employees across 173 separate agencies along with a handful of contractors that it can let go. But, if you take a step back to look at the volume of diligence that the Commonwealth undertook before it made its decision final — most all of which is public, you can't help but wonder whether Massachusetts just created an online wizard that will make it easier and less expensive for other governments to embark on similar projects. Lest Microsoft think other governments aren't paying attention, it may want to consider who launched the Government Open Code Collaborative (Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Utah, Kansas, Missouri, West Virginia, and the cities of Gloucester [MA], Worcester [MA], and Newport News [VA]) in June of 2004 and how the current list of GOCC members and observers has blossomed well beyond the founding group.
Not only is the GOCC clearly keeping an eye on things in Massachusetts (see this call for participation from the GOCC), judging by a presentation given by Massachusetts Information Technology Division (ITD) policy and architecture director Claudia Boldman, the Commonwealth considers its involvement in the GOCC an integral part of its overall open standards initiative (not to mention that the presentation was given at the Conférence surles Logiciels Libreset les Administrations Publiques in Quebec, Canada and one can only imagine who else was paying attention!).
Take the digital ecosystem that lives around Massachusetts' 173 agencies and multiply that times some number of other states. Throw in some cities and counties and then a dash or two of corporations that see a reflection of themselves in what those governments are doing, and suddenly, instead of a defector, Microsoft has an exodus on its hands.
I sincerely hope it pans out in Ma. These things have a way of getting "delayed" (Munich) or reversed (what local government in the UK was that?), or effectively canceled by a change of power (the DOJ case). If someone asked me today what large governments had *actually* switched to Linux *at this time*, I would have to say Largo, Florida, population 70,000. (Appologies to whatever villages half way around the world that I may be leaving out.)
Of course, with Ma., we're only talking file formats. But I'll believe it when I see it. Open Source is "doing great" on PDA's... but you can't go to any store and buy one where I live (poplation 1 Million). Open Source is doing great on cell phones. But you can't buy one here.
Sorry. Bad hair day. But to be honest, I see a great disconnect between the news I read, and the reality that I see.
I delivered a notebook machine to a client today. Not a particularly computer savvy client. But savvy enough that when I mentioned that I had installed Firefox for him to try out, he immediately wanted to confirm that I had set IE as the default browser and not FIrefox.
We're on a steeper incline than I usually like to acknowledge.
Like I say... bad hair day.
-Steve
Of course, with Ma., we're only talking file formats. But I'll believe it when I see it. Open Source is "doing great" on PDA's... but you can't go to any store and buy one where I live (poplation 1 Million). Open Source is doing great on cell phones. But you can't buy one here.
Sorry. Bad hair day. But to be honest, I see a great disconnect between the news I read, and the reality that I see.
I delivered a notebook machine to a client today. Not a particularly computer savvy client. But savvy enough that when I mentioned that I had installed Firefox for him to try out, he immediately wanted to confirm that I had set IE as the default browser and not FIrefox.
We're on a steeper incline than I usually like to acknowledge.
Like I say... bad hair day.
-Steve
Steve,
You're intuition seems pretty good. But, don't let the turkeys get you down.
The Massachusetts ODF is real. It's not a migration to Linux, but it effectively breaks up Microsoft's monopoly. Today, the Australian government declared all agencies will use the ODF. I expect to see it to get out of Microsoft's control before they can do much about it.
Of course, all they have to do is add filters and a patch to Office. We'll see.
You're intuition seems pretty good. But, don't let the turkeys get you down.
The Massachusetts ODF is real. It's not a migration to Linux, but it effectively breaks up Microsoft's monopoly. Today, the Australian government declared all agencies will use the ODF. I expect to see it to get out of Microsoft's control before they can do much about it.
Of course, all they have to do is add filters and a patch to Office. We'll see.
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