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Boycotting "Get the Facts" Advertisements

Posted by tadelste on · 30 comments
LXer; By Tom Adelstein
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Microsoft has engaged in a questionable practice of advertising on seemingly every Linux related article on the Internet. We may not have the ability to stop the advertisements, but we will look for alternate sources carrying similar story content. Because Microsoft crosses the line doesn't mean we have to fold our hand.

An editor can see more than a hundred story submissions daily. Reviewing each one for good information can seem rather tedious. With even a good story line we have to consider if a writer's work seems soiled when his or her publications puts Microsoft ads in the midst of content.

When reviewing articles we see an inordinate amount of "Get the Facts" advertisements in banners, skyscrapers, text, sponsored content and intellitext. Industry officials call their practice content sensitive advertising. I call it boycottable to coin a new word.

Whatever happened to good manners and stewardship? Many publications claim that content and advertising exist in two different departments. According to the publications a conflict will always exist. Oh really?

I guess offending publications have never heard of selling their soul to the devil. Claiming a conflict exists between advertising and editorial departments means the organization has no decision making abilities. Someone pulls the trigger and saying otherwise constitutes consumer fraud.

Using logic



Let's use an analogy to Microsoft's practice. For example, consider a medical journal that publishes a story about a study. The study suggests that Celebrex has a connection to increased cardiovascular problems.

How would you feel if Pfizer put an advertisement square in the middle of the text of such a story? Pfizer could make the ad gray in color and say "Get the Facts About Arthritis and Pain". You could then click a link inside the ad that takes you to one of the company's web sites offering a set of conclusions about how it may cut the risk of precancerous growths.

I truly cannot imagine such a scenario. Some things just seem incongruous to me. With a pool of unemployed American technology workers willing to work at a convenience store rather than starve, Congress has decided to allow more H1B workers into the US. Additionally, I also love seeing the flag of Mexico at protest rallies favoring guest workers.

Most US citizens come from the family of immigrants. My great grandparents, for example, migrated from Germany and Italy. Asking around, no one recalls them hoisting up the flags of the Deutschland after arriving here. The worse criticism seems to revolve around my great grandmother's pasta sauce bothering the in-laws.

American companies send jobs abroad while companies like Toyota open plants in the US and hire experienced auto workers and save money. How do people explain such anomalies? It reminds me of Lee Iacocca saying "Safety doesn't sell" when referring to exploding Pintos on the streets of America.

At what point does the almighty dollar become ones God? Does someones wife have to turn to salt before we wake up? I know, if you break your hand, you're just suposed to ignore the pain because the company will dock your pay. Tell that to the people who brought you maternity leave.

Where do we go from here?



In my latest issue of InformationWeek, I opened the cover and saw a two page layout. On the right page is a "Get the Facts" story so twisted that I wonder how that publication could allow it. The line that reads: Teleflora chose Windows Server (TM) over Linux and UNIX, and saved 35% in development costs.

If you read further, how does teleflora know that .NET technology saved them 35%? What factual evidence exists. Did they deploy Linux and then Windows and discover some truth? What factors played into their assertion?

For one, I'm discontinuing my subscription to InformationWeek. I'm also planning to boycott publications using Microsoft "Get the Facts" advertisements when I see them.

If you see such an ad in our newswire stories, let us know. We provide some readership and in the past have sent readers to offending publications. Let's see if we can put a dent in offending publications by refusing to carry their stories.

In addition, let me know about any Celebrex ads that might show up at C/Net. I'm looking for those also.

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Comments (30)

What about the little guy?

tuxme ·
I agree with you whole heartedly, Tom, but what about the smaller independent websites out there that rely on advertising such as Google Adsense? I run http://www.tuxme.com and have Google Adsense ads on my site just to cover my hosting costs. Believe me, there's profit to be made in Google ads but I'm not making any. Just checking the ads now, it has one of those context sensitive ads there and it's the Microsoft Get Facts campaign. I can't afford to not use Google Adsense.

Maybe all of us who rely on this service should email Google and ask them to stop serving these ads that are hardly context sensitive but rather offensive?
tadelste ·
We have an agreement with Google to exclude Microsoft advertising. I believe you can specify in your portal that they exclude certain sites.

Do you get revenue from Microsoft ads on your site?

grouch ·
Microsoft is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to anything it touches. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_c...

I recommend complete and radical surgery. Another option would be radiation treatments. Anybody got a spare hydrogen bomb?
tuxme ·
I don't think anyone ever clicks on the Microsoft ads. I'll see if I can get Google to exclude them for me. Thanks.
trueash ·
2 tuxme: Well, people may not click on the MS ads but they work anyway - after all, who cares about the "facts"? It's the impression they create that matters, and that's why boycotting is important. And even more important than the boycott itself is the noise that we will make about it. So, I myself will a) boycott anything with the GTF on it and b) will make other people I know aware about this fact ;-)
Libervis ·
I hear you tuxme. I however stopped running even google adsense ads on my sites because we don't support google anymore (due to their censorship in China among other things).

Instead, I've been trying to sell (with limited success) some text link ads manually. This could actually be a good alternative to adsense and possibly even more rewarding, so there's a suggestion.

We on Libervis Network have a clear Advertising Policy (http://www.libervis.com/advertising-policy.php) that is applied to the whole network, and we abide by that. This way our readers and members know where we stand and potential advertisers know what is or isn't accepted.

Thanks Daniel
grouch ·
Libervis:

Your advertising policy is confusing to me. What do you mean by "proprietary"? Linux is proprietary -- it's owned by the copyright owners. This comment is proprietary -- I own it and LXer.com owns this presentation of it.

I think you mean "closed" where you use "proprietary", but I can't be sure.
Libervis ·
I don't mean "closed" because "closed" is just opposite of "open" which implies only the open source code, not freedom. I mean unfree software.

But I think you have a point. Advertisers who may not necessarily be involved in FLOSS may find it a bit confusing. We should revise the wording and probably link it to fsf.org or something. :)

Thanks Daniel
grouch ·
I'm bad about doing the same thing, but it doesn't cost me anything to be confusing. ;)

1. Public domain: no owner (actually everyone owns it equally). 2. Proprietary: owned; not public domain.

2.1. Closed source: owned secret sauce; may be free beer, but you can't see the recipe.

2.2. Open source: owned but visible; may be commercial or non-commercial; some user freedoms may be restricted.

2.3. Free (by FSF definition) software: owned, open, free as in speech (the 4 freedoms of users are protected).

Libervis ·
Hehe.. Yeah those would be the right definitions / identifications for these terms.

I think linking the word free software to fsf.org should do the trick for dispersing confusion though.

Also, since advertisers are specifically refered to this policy when I sell advertising manually and person to person I am usually there to explain any confusion that could arise. The whole point of the advertising policy is to have a certain set of written rules for us to obey in regard to what kind of advertising we will allow. It's not that we couldn't do the same without it, but we'd forget more easily. This keeps me in line so to say. :)

Firefox + adblock

NoDough ·
Firefox + adblock = I never 'Get the Facts'
Rascalson ·
And for those sites that have been designed to make sure even adblock can't get rid of the "Get the Lies" crap *Cough LT Cough* there is RIP.

Effective boycotting

SamShazaam ·
In order to change the behavior of the boycotted organization, three things are necessary.

1. The boycotted must understand what is being boycotted and why. A simple email with an explanation should suffice.

2. The boycotted must see a difference in some tangible and measurable way. There isn't much we can do here as it requires management skills on the part of the boycotted. Any number of things will suffice- hit counts, sales figures, click-throughs.

3. The boycotted must understand the remedy, or circumstances necessary to end the boycott. Without this step, the boycotted will simply factor out the boycotting party and continue on as-is. Many boycotts fail because of this. The email, mentioned at step one, should suffice.

Keep in mind that not all boycotts are successful. At some point it may be necessary to change tactcs.
tadelste ·
SS: Good work. Did we share a desk once? I saw you steps in a training manual as I recall.

Keep in mind, I'm saying as an editorial policy that we're not putting up their content.

Boycotting? No way, man!

wolfchri ·
MS has a certain marketing budget for this campaign. They / their marketing agency very likely bought a certain number of clicks for the ads.

If you cklick on the ads whenever you see them, you count their marketing budget down and prevent an innocent user from falling prey to this campaign.

One could even have the idea to have wget crawl and "cklick" on the ads for you. However, one should NOT to do so because that could be illegal in many countries.

Clicking on ads, by the way, makes Linux users being heard much more than you might think. Users that bring money are a website owners preferred users. Since only 1 out of 25 users or less usually click on ads, you as a Linux surfer count for 25 website users when you click on a ad.

tadelste ·
Quoting:If you cklick on the ads whenever you see them, you count their marketing budget down and prevent an innocent user from falling prey to this campaign.


wolfchri: I appreciate your thoughts. However, that is not our style. They have about $50 billion. Strictly from my point of view and I admit I learned to hold my ground even when getting overrun - that is, I don't retreat and I'm willing to take a (vinyl) bullet, I'm through putting up content with MS ads. I consider the ads the equivalent of porn.

SFN ·
Quoting:I consider the ads the equivalent of porn.
Hey, now. Don't be knocking porn.
tadelste ·
Gallows laughter.
jojje ·
A Firefox plug-in that stop the "Get-the-Facts" ad's.

A "black-list" to go with the glug-in.

At least a list of those sites that mix "Get-the-Facts" ad's with GNU/Linux content.
jimf ·
Someone on the Firefox team should be willing to do the plugin :).
jdixon ·
> I consider the ads the equivalent of porn.

Yes, the kind that leads you to a pay site that won't let you shut it down (only a problem with IE, of course).
grouch ·
IE == I'm Exploited!

No one sensible uses such a thing. There is simply no rational justification.

More on blocking

jojje ·
This is my idea how to stop Microsoft

A Firefox plug-in that stop the "Get-the-Facts" ad's.

A "black-list" to go with the glug-in.

At least a list of those sites that mix "Get-the-Facts" ad's with GNU/Linux content.
tadelste ·
The publicity alone would freak Microsoft out.
Rascalson ·
I use an extension for Firefox called "Remove it Permanently". Does wonders for removing the "Get the Lies" "Disinformation Center" "Editorialtizement" from LT.
grouch ·
I'd rather wade through hog manure up to my chin than visit LT.

Trolling and astroturfing by a mole editor - http://www.varlinux.org/vl/html/modules/stories/article.php?...

Exposure - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5218

Apology for getting caught - http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-08-08-007-20...

Disingenuous diversion tactics at the same time as the mole was calling Newsforge "Newsforger", etc. - http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/1866/1/

It's called competition. Live with it.

the_it ·
There's very little to be said about this matter. Sure, if I had a company that developed some product I'd feel bad if my competitors advertised theirs in the same place. The fact that I feel bad doesn't make it wrong though. But the bulk of this post seems to be focusing more on that whole "I feel bad" part, rather than the more important "where'd the 35%" (to which some attention has been paid) "come from?"

Instead of calling for some political/ethical boycott on FACT of competition, perhaps you should be calling for some claims of fraud/manipulation instead. It's the closest ethical match for the circumstances claimed.
jimf ·
If the MS "Get the Facts"advertisements contained any 'factual' information at all, your argument might have credence.
tadelste ·
the_it: A couple of things. This is an editorial decision not a call to arms. We are finding alternative sources. It's an easy thing to do even though it requires a time commitment.

Secondly, the FTC is supposed to regulate in the area where a monopilist rules. The rules of competition change when a US Federal Appeals Court labels an organization as a monopoly. They aren't your ordinary competitor.
number6x ·
Get the facts, get the 'real' facts that is...

http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudgex.htm

The link is to the Federal Court's Finding of Facts in the Microsoft anti-trust trial.

Anyone, even journalists, can use any of these facts as facts when talking about Microsoft in public.

And thats a fact!

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