Ubuntu Hardy alpha released

Ubuntu is closer to Debian than you might think. It all comes down to what works better with your hardware.

Do a Debian desktop install and you'll be surprised at how many of the tools you use in Ubuntu are also there in Debian (most of them). The biggest omission is the Add/Delete Programs utility. You're "stuck" with Synaptic (and Aptitude and apt).

One thing -- in Debian, you get more tools, utilities and the like in the stock desktop install.

Still, most of what makes Ubuntu and Debian so "easy" is all the stuff that comes with GNOME.

ColonelPanik, where do you think the synaptic manager came from? The only package manager that Ubuntu has added is that silly PBI type thing, which was a poor mans rip off of synaptic to begin with. Nearly everything you learned while wearing your training wheels is applicable to Debian (including a good majority of Ubuntu's how-to's). You just have to unlearn a few bad habits that Ubuntu has *cough* sudo *cough* no root *cough*.

In comparison I can remember all that stuff, and doing it. I have moved on though and am much happier, I start with a LiveCD that only has a CLI, and in a few hours a perfectly streamlined custom compiled Gentoo system. No muss, no fuss, no what in the world is that package for anyway. Looking at it through those eyes, even Debian seems a tad simplistic.

Quoting: Are you guys just trying to get me to try this so you can watch my head explode?

Yes.

Seriously, I think you'll have no trouble in getting Debian up and running. Perhaps you should try a VM first, it runs quite nicely inside of one.

The Debian "netinst" is in the oven now. Was that a smart way to go?

All of the posters to this thread MUST send me their phone # just in case there are any problems.

rijelkentaurus, /slap If I have doubts about Debian I have even greater doubts about this VM voodoo.

The Colonel will send updates from Debianlandia, if indeed he arrives there at all.

Quoting:The Debian "netinst" is in the oven now. Was that a smart way to go?

Yes. That means it will install immediately from the latest packages on the internet and not from CD. That means you'll have all the latest packages so you don't need to update your system immediately after installing.

You'll need a fast internet connection during the installation of course.

Quoting: rijelkentaurus, /slap

ColonelPanik, I'm going to have to start calling you CorporalPunishment. :^P

Post needs here, find answers here. I will help you anyway I can, dude. Debian is a wonderful thing. Of course, I use Fedora...but who's being picky? I have used Debian as the main in the past. Love it.

When ever you need it Colonel, it may take me a few minutes to drag answers from the back of my brain though. I haven't touched Debian or derivatives in awhile.

Ta

Help!

The test computer is ill. No video, tried two different cards/three monitors. Not even the BIOS splash. No beeps (beep codes still used?) MoBo dead?

But that HP ran 24/7 for 7 years! I learned what I know about Linux on that thing. Rambus RAM. Maybe one stick died?

New jobs for old workers: http://flickr.com/photos/digitaldust/88847257/in/pool-tuawri...

Process of elimination...leave one stick of RAM in the board, take out NICs, etc, leave only video, see if it posts. And of course the "make sure all cables are securely in place" stuff. How recently was this PC used? Was it the main one?

RAMBUS 4 slots all slots must be filled. I tried swapping and if any of the four were bad I should have found it.

next: beep code: 1 123 123 1 (weird) BIOS??? ASUS/Award http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph06446...

Not the main one (whew) I have one of those little AcerPower 1000 desktop-notebook thingies for the main player. Cute.

The HP up until two months ago it was always running. Last two months, used it as needed.

Video: Both of the vid cards are AGP. Only one was in the machine when it went south, so, the card in the file cabinet should be okay. No luck swapping them. I am trying to find a PCI card to borrow. :€

I will go into New Orleans tomorrow and consult with a VooDooest? You good folks keep those thinking caps on (B_R your tin-foil thinking cap).

'preciate the help.

> beep code: 1 123 123 1 (weird) BIOS??? ASUS/Award

Look here: http://www.amptron.com/html/bios.beepcodes.html

One long and three short means video adapter failure.

jdixon, thanks. I am sure that its the AGP that is borked. Out to find a PCI card. More coffee!

:) Happy story (:

My son-in-law's laptop w/winders crashed (disk read error) I know that a winders crash may be a feature and not a problem. The lappy held the complete final to be turned in this week work for the lads masters degree! Of course being well educated he did not have any of it backed up.

Knoppix to the rescue, what else? My dear bride is in Albuquerque, NM and staying with our daughters family. and I am here in New Orleans, LA. She was able to put her Knoppix disk to good use and rescue all the documents! The Colonel provided a little telephone help desk kind of support.

Linux is so great.

Quoting: :) Happy story (:

You had me at "winders crashed". I always like to see Linux come to the aid of poor, pitiful Bill Gates' software, lets people around you see what really good programming can get you, and for free...and for Free.

No joy in Mudville! Put in a PCI video card and still no vid. Same 1 123 123 1 beep code. So I think the seven year old machine can just get parted-out. Of course this puts the "Colonel installing Debian" show on hold.

Thanks for the help.

I am Pure. I am holy. At least you would think that the Colonel is an apprentice geek now.

Got a free computer from a friend and fed it the Debian "netinst.iso" coaster. WOW, w00t and thank you all for conning me into this! Its pure Debian, pure wonder. The truth is: This was easier than installing any Ubuntu or PCLinuxOS. So easy an enlisted man could do it.

This is a wired machine, but I may try it on the laptop for the wireless love.

Thank you all again, those who sent me their Ph # will be receiving large checks in the mail.

>> Thank you all again, those who sent me their Ph # will be receiving large checks in the mail.

How you gonna mail a check to a phone number?

My cell # has an email address. Will that work? ;-)

In th The Netherlands. We don't use cheques anymore. Cashing them is hugely expensive. Unless it's for more than $100 it's not worth it.

Quoting: Mepis 6.5 was so slow on my test hardware, I couldn't hang with it long enough to do a review. I think that was the one based on Ubuntu.

My secondary laptop is a P4m 1.8ghz with a mere 256mb RAM (purchased for $75...what a steal!). Mint 4.0 with GNOME choked it so bad it was almost unusable...I wanted to cry when I used it, I think Windows XP would have been faster! I am now running Mepis 7.0rc2 with KDE...and it runs like a scalded dog! This thing is like a new laptop, Mepis 7 is absolutely incredible, I am really loving it. Heading back to Debian (and taking a few packages from Ubuntu still) has made all of the difference in the world. I think Mepis is back (finally) to the form that made it my first real Linux love...this is superior in performance even to Mepis 3.4.3...a rather legendary distro to Mepisites. Check it out!