Flipping the Linux switch: KDE, the K desktop environment

Quoting:Doesn't need it.

Neither does Tasty K-Menu since it's functionally the same. It is nice to have though.

Quoting:It takes up way too much space,...but I wish they'd take up less horizontal space

Quoting:You can change the width of each column individually and make them as narrow as possible.

Read my comment again: I'm not complaining about the slab menu. That takes up very little horizontal space on the panel. It's the standard gnome menu that I find to take up too much space.

My main beef with the slab menu is that it takes too many clicks to get to the application I need. IIRC it took something like 4 mouseclicks to start synaptic, as opposed to two for the default gnome menu.

> I don't want to sound too pushy, but you are not giving it time and consideration.

I did. It's ugly, cumbersome, and in my opinion is being done _because_ it resembles the menu in XP.

> No comparison. XP menu is slow and ugly, tasty is nappy and elegant.

Only to someone that likes it. I don't like rounded window corners or transparencies, either.

So long as I can turn it off, we're fine. If it's ever the only Kmenu structure, KDE will be replaced on my system.

/me agree's with Bob

although I am traditionally a fluxbox user.

Quoting:Read my comment again: I'm not complaining about the slab menu

I realize that now. The reason I thought you were referring to Tasty is because it is also available for GNOME DE. Linuxmint already has it and a user needs to click a group only once to get to a specific application.

Quoting:Only to someone that likes it.

I can't do much about not likening it, but what I am trying to understand is what is there not to like especially when its functionality is exactly the same as the current hierarchical menu with some restructuring, reorganization, more options and eye candy.

Are you sure you are looking at the latest I pointed to? If not, try its implementation in Linuxmint.

I took a quick look at it on a Mandriva install I did on a machine and can kinda see both sides. It is pretty, and seems slick if you like that type of menu structure and navigation style. But it is quite a bit different from the "classic" menu structure and navigation style.

Maybe some of us don't like it because we don't like to use menus at all (or only like to use them rarely), so the more feature-filled and fancy and multi-leveled the menu is the less we like it?

*shrug*

Maybe that's just me though. :)

> exactly the same as the current hierarchical menu with some restructuring, reorganization, more options and eye candy.

Oh, like the American congress is just like Parlament with some restructuring, reorganization, more options and eye candy?

Can I haz seconds?

Quoting:Oh, like the American congress is just like Parlament with some restructuring, reorganization, more options and eye candy?

So, I take it you like neither! right?

Quoting:Can I haz seconds?

Might as well since this whole discussion is centering on essentially the question of what is the best pizza topping. It's all in opinion.

> So, I take it you like neither! right?

Irrelevant. I'm trying to point out that even an elephant is just a mouse with some restructuring, reorganization, more options and eye candy.

Fundamentally, they are identical. Same cell structure, same basic DNA, same metabolic chemical interactions.

The fact that some like one, and not the other, is the issue. It doesn't matter how similar they are, what matters are the differences.

The Tasty menu system is repulsive to me. That's all. Trying to defend it as being "fundamentally the same" and therefore I aught to like it is, is, ... absurd.

Quoting:Trying to defend it as being "fundamentally the same" and therefore I aught to like it is, is, ... absurd.

Of course it would be absurd, but I wasn't trying to make you or anyone else like it.

Actually, I care less who does or doesn't like it since each has his/her preference. I said that almost in every post of mine here. What I was debating were the mis-information some had about it, not their preferences. This mis-information were probably due to the varieties and versions of this menu, which is still in development.

Quoting:the best pizza topping

@azerthoth

The Pizza analogy is pretty good one but missed on the toppings. Tasty on the desktop is like cheese on a pizza, not a topping. You can have different kind of but it is still cheese. You can have a pizza without toppings but technically, you can't have pizza without some kind of cheese.

If you prefer pita http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pita (Xfce) instead, that would be a different story. :)

> Tasty on the desktop is like cheese on a pizza, not a topping.

So I have to give up pizza because I don't like your brand of cheese?

> I wasn't trying to make you or anyone else like it.

Abe, good sir, you are understating the vehemence of your advocacy. Such as saying that someone who doesn't like Tasty must therefore abandon KDE.

I do not doubt that you believe you're being completely reasonable. The problem is that your "reasonable" is way out toward "lunatic fringe" to the rest of us (or what I'm reading of the replies to your comments, anyway).

Trust me. I have experience in such matters.

Quoting:So I have to give up pizza because I don't like your brand of cheese? ... Such as saying that someone who doesn't like Tasty must therefore abandon KDE.

@Bob

I never said or insinuated that. You just diverted my argument into a totally different direction.

> I never said or insinuated that.

Yes, you did. Explicitly:

"If you prefer pita [HYPERLINK@en.wikipedia.org] (Xfce) instead, that would be a different story."

Quoting:Yes, you did. Explicitly:

"If you prefer pita [HYPERLINK@en.wikipedia.org] (Xfce) instead, that would be a different story."

ROTFLMAO.

Wooh. That was in relation to the pizza analogy. You can have it with different kind of cheese, meaning Tasty or standard K-menu or any other K-menu for that matter. And if you prefer pita, meaning pizza without cheese, that would be like having Xfce.

I think you are reading too much into what I say. Please don't.

> I think you are reading too much into what I say. Please don't.

I think you are being far too strenuous in your advocacy. Please don't.

Abe and Bob,

It sounds like the conversation between the two of you has gotten a little heated.

If the two of you wish to continue in exchanging barbs at least bring the analogies back to the thread topic a little bit. :-)

Your difference of opinion seems to have stagnated participation from others which I can only hope you find as distasteful as I do.

Quoting:I'm trying to point out that even an elephant is just a mouse with some restructuring, reorganization, more options and eye candy.

To quote The Motley Fool (re: SCO): "A mouse may be able to scare an elephant, but it's only a matter of time before the elephant picks up Sylvester the cat and uses him to beat the mouse to death."

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