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Ah, so when you see the nickname "windoze" used, you cry "microsoft bashing"? hmm, seems a bit hypersensitive.

Now, if I called it "microsucks winbloze" or something along those lines, that could be considered a case of implicit microsoft bashing, just as I would consider it linux bashing if a freebsd user referred to linux as "linsux"

OTOH when I hear linux called "leenooks" I don't consider it linux bashing.

Your the one that said there was no bashing going on, yet you were wrong..it was.

That's not hypersensitive, its accurate. You can't get upset that someone states there is bashing going on, say there isn't, when there obviously is..

> That's not hypersensitive, its accurate. You can't get upset that someone states there is bashing going on, say there isn't, when there obviously is..

LOL, who got upset? I'm just trying to understand where you think there was microsoft bashing going on.

Can you explain where the microsoft bashing is? I though bashing meant insults, accusations, placing of blame etc.

I'm not upset or hypersensitive, it was merely a sociological observation...and a weak attempt at humor.

Don't you LINUTS get it?

8^)

> Don't you LINUTS get it?

Hey, thems fightin words!

herzeleid>> when you see the nickname "windoze" used, you cry "microsoft bashing"?

herzeleid>> I would consider it linux bashing if a freebsd user referred to linux as "linsux"

How can you call one bashing, and not the other?

Quoting: herzeleid>> when you see the nickname "windoze" used, you cry "microsoft bashing"?

herzeleid>> I would consider it linux bashing if a freebsd user referred to linux as "linsux"

How can you call one bashing, and not the other?

You edited my message to make it less clear. Let me restore the parts you deleted:

Quoting: I would consider it linux bashing if a freebsd user referred to linux as "linsux" OTOH when I hear linux called "leenooks" I don't consider it linux bashing.

so, an alternate spelling doesn't equate to bashing - and:

Quoting:Now, if I called it "microsucks winbloze" ... that could be considered ... microsoft bashing,

So, I said that a pejorative term for windows *does* constitute bashing - makes a lot more sense when I put back the parts you removed, doesn't it?

In short,, "windoze" isn't bashing, just as "leenoks" isn't bashing; OTOH "microsux winbloze" is bashing, just as "linsux" is bashing

To recap, in the one case, you have a alternative phonetic spelling, on the other hand you have an insult ("sux" in case you missed it). See the difference?

herzeleid>> So, I said that a pejorative term for windows *does* constitute bashing - makes a lot more sense when I put back the parts you removed, doesn't it?

Well, I guess if you consider 'windoze' just a nick and don't take into account the 'doze' portion. http://tfd.com/doze I've always taken the word to be a wise crack aimed squarely at Microsoft. Ever since I read it the first time back in the mid-late 90s.

I think it's time we stopped talking about Micro$oft and started talking about eunuchs.

> Well, I guess if you consider 'windoze' just a nick and don't take into account the 'doze' portion. [HYPERLINK@tfd.com] I've always taken the word to be a wise crack aimed squarely at Microsoft. Ever since I read it the first time back in the mid-late 90s.

OK, 'doze' meaning 'to sleep'. huh. still don't see the insult there. now 'winbloze' - clearly an insult. But I digress.

I think it's gotta be 5:00 somewhere, it's margarita time.

> Read: windoze.

Well, Windows does not equal Microsoft, so technically that's Windows bashing and not Microsoft bashing. Calling it M$ Windoze would be Microsoft bashing. Whether it's deserved bashing would be another subject entirely.

jdixon: Grasping for loopholes? Why not admit the truth? Isn't M$ product bashing the same as M$ bashing, for all practical purposes?

You, I and everyone else here knows we're not talking about X Windows...many of us are Ex-Windoze. We see right through it.

BTW: ih8microsoft.com, ih8windows.com and ih8windoze.com are all available if anyone is interested. Those would make for some fun forums...age verification required!

> BTW: ih8microsoft.com, ih8windows.com and ih8windoze.com are all available if anyone is interested. Those would make for some fun forums...age verification required!

Haha I've already bought my share of novelty domains.

I don't hate windoze, I am really indifferent to it. I only wish that the folks at microsoft would get out of my face, and stop trying to make themselves part of my life.

Dear microsoft, I've already got an OS that I'm happy with, OK? No, I'm not interested in dating. No, I'm not interested in going out for coffee. No, I'm not interested in being friends. You go your way and I'll go mine, and let's just leave it at that, OK?

> Isn't M$ product bashing the same as M$ bashing, for all practical purposes?

No. You can bash one product from a company without bashing the entire company. Lots of companies have produced one or more bad products over the years. As a perfect example, I could bash Sony's root kit software on their CD's without affecting my opinion of the laptops or televisions at all (or of the music on the CD's for that matter).

> Isn't M$ product bashing the same as M$ bashing, for all practical purposes?

Not at all. While I have no use for windoze, I've actually bought microsoft mice for my own use, more than once.

Yep, I recommend microsoft mice! How do you like them apples?

@herzeleid - Read my post near the bottom of this to see what I think about that: http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/26801/

And I hate typing with anything but a Microsoft Natural Keyboard. Even the Logitech split keboards just don't fit my hands right.

With input devices I think everyone just has to experiment and find what works best for them. Pay no attention to the logo. Let your body decide, not your mind.

Quoting:Let your body decide, not your mind.

When my mind saw my hands go from 55wpm to 80+wpm, the decision became unanimous.

I don't type anywhere near those numbers, but my speed and accuracy did increase. The best part is I'm able to spend my hours on the keyboard without soreness or cramping, which is more important than speed for me.

Man, we are so off topic it is unbelievable.