This article is misleading..

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devnet

Mar 22, 2007
5:46 AM EDT
It leads people to think that a PIII with 256MB of RAM can't run KDE and that simply isn't true. I've had a Celeron 900 with 256MB of PC133 humming with PCLinuxOS MiniME for quite some time.

I hate articles like this because someone new to Linux would read it and come to the general conclusion that Linux is also a resource hog like Vista and we all know that just isn't true.
DarrenR114

Mar 22, 2007
5:52 AM EDT
>I hate articles like this because someone new to Linux would read it and come to the general conclusion that Linux is also a resource hog like Vista and we all know that just isn't true.

It isn't???
devnet

Mar 22, 2007
5:53 AM EDT
Not really no.

If I can run a Celeron 900 with the latest KDE w/ 256MB of PC133...it's not even close to being a resource hog.
Sander_Marechal

Mar 22, 2007
7:08 AM EDT
If you need a Celeron 900 with 256 Mb RAM, I'd call KDE a resource hog :-) I still have an old PIII 600 with 128 Mb RAM lying around and it runs Ubuntu 5.10 just fine. And that's one of the heavier distro's! 6.06 and after start to lag though.
devnet

Mar 22, 2007
7:31 AM EDT
Your PIII 600 trumps my Celeron 900 my friend...it's faster.

Your L2 cache is bigger (512 vs. my 128) and you have MMX and SSE instruction sets which my Celeron doesn't have. Also, my RAM runs at PC100 speed which is the same as my FSB...100MHz...I use the PC133 because they have better latency than any sticks of PC100 I have. Your PIII runs at 133Mhz FSB.

http://balusc.xs4all.nl/srv/har-cpu-int-p3.php

So what is a resource hog again? I'd say that Ubuntu 5.10 is if you need all that power of the PIII 600 :D

dcparris

Mar 22, 2007
8:05 AM EDT
Try my PII/450MHz running Etch/KDE/OOo - at blazing speeds. :-p
DarrenR114

Mar 22, 2007
8:55 AM EDT
BTW, devnet, I was j/k. ;-)
devnet

Mar 22, 2007
9:29 AM EDT
DCParris,

I had a PII 350 running SimplyMEPIS but it died :(
dcparris

Mar 22, 2007
10:56 AM EDT
My condolences. I have a PII-350 that's been somewhat cannibalized. Probably still works though.
jimf

Mar 22, 2007
11:19 AM EDT
/me hugs his PII-300 Dual :D
tracyanne

Mar 22, 2007
1:57 PM EDT
quote:: It leads people to think that a PIII with 256MB of RAM can't run KDE and that simply isn't true. I've had a Celeron 900 with 256MB of PC133 humming with PCLinuxOS MiniME for quite some time. ::quote

I have Mandriva 2007 with KDE running on a P3 500 with 196 Meg of RAM, so there.
Scott_Ruecker

Mar 22, 2007
3:00 PM EDT
I have two P-III 700 and 800mhz machines running KDE, and well I might add.

I did keep an eye out during the install to keep it as lean as possible but it is still a very full featured desktop.
Sander_Marechal

Mar 22, 2007
4:45 PM EDT
Quoting:Your PIII 600 trumps my Celeron 900 my friend...it's faster.


Okay, beat this: When I moved out there was a gap of about two weeks untill my new PC was ready (the AMD64 I now use). In those two weeks I used Ubuntu 5.10 on a PII 233 Mhz with 128 Mb RAM. The boot was slow, you didn't want to open any of the OpenOffice packages, but aside from that it did work reasonably well (for two weeks anyway) :-)
tracyanne

Mar 22, 2007
4:59 PM EDT
I have had Linspire running on a P2 350 with 256 Meg of ram, and used OO.o.
devnet

Mar 22, 2007
5:58 PM EDT
I installed Xandros on my TI-83!
jimf

Mar 22, 2007
8:13 PM EDT
> I installed Xandros on my TI-83!

Shhhee... No fair resorting to MS tactics there devnet ;-)
tuxtom

Mar 22, 2007
10:44 PM EDT
I can run just about anything on an old PII-233 Micron Laptop with 96 Megs of RAM...from KDE distros to XP (for marine chartplotting software).

I have a P-I 233 ThinkPad with 32 Megs RAM that runs DSL or Fluxbuntu just fine. Sure, it isn't your power desktop, but it's entirely adequate for correspondence, web development/browsing and network monitoring. It's responsive, something you can't say about the Win98 that was stock on the machine.

It's funny that those old machines sometimes run better than newer ones...as long as you install to the hard drive. Running live CD's is like watching trees grow.
Sander_Marechal

Mar 22, 2007
11:15 PM EDT
I know someone who uses a reasonably aged machine (with big RAM upgrade) to run LiveCD distro's. That's all she ever does really. She gave MS the boot but is afraid to install a distro to her HDD. She just downloads the latest build LiveCD occasionally and uses it as her OS. The HDD is used to store her personal files. She claims it's great because she doesn't have to be afraid of hackers and virusses. After a reboot the system is clean anyway!

Yes, she gets the concept of LiveCD but not the concept of "There are no Linux virusses".
Bob_Robertson

Mar 23, 2007
7:39 AM EDT
Ok, Tuxtom beat my 350MHz K5 with 128MB RAM, so that's out. Anyway, I tend to use it only as a backup, and run the KDE apps on OLWM just because.

The thing I really like is that, even with a machine 9 years old, it still runs the up-to-date software. Latest kernel, latest OpenOffice, Mozilla, Konqueror, Kmail, etc. I wonder what Vista would do on that machine? Would it even _boot_ without a DVD drive?
dcparris

Mar 23, 2007
7:43 AM EDT
See if MS will send you the installation floppies. :-D
Sander_Marechal

Mar 23, 2007
7:45 AM EDT
Preferably 5"1/4 SD :-)
dcparris

Mar 23, 2007
8:01 AM EDT
:-D
jimf

Mar 23, 2007
8:02 AM EDT
> Preferably 5"1/4 SD :-)

Oh come on now, even my PII dual has a 3 1/2" and a CDRW.

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