Roy you gone done and took off your tin foil hat again.
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tracyanne Jun 26, 2008 11:56 PM EDT |
Roy once again you talk through a hole in your rear end. Either that or there's something between your ears that has finally leaked out.Quoting:I've used the BBC web site on Linux, using Opera for Linux. It works fine. The streams for radio and video work with VCL Player, too. So I don't know why the caption writer on that video is so scathing. Perhaps it was written by a Microsoft employee who was trying to dissuade people from switching to Linux. Or maybe they are just ignorant. If a person has gone to all the trouble of installing Linux, setting up their internet card and getting used to the different programs, surely they would have the sense to download the apropriate browser to view a favourite web site in. Opera for Linux is slick, pretty, fast and has most of the plug-ins needed for viewing videos and listening to audio streams. JohnSA @ Freethiners Pub on yuku http://freethinkerspub.yuku.com/topic/6045 |
tuxchick Jun 27, 2008 7:19 AM EDT |
Meh, once it's too much work to figure out what the point is. A text summary would be nice- sitting through an 8-minute muddy video, even with snarky captions, is not my idea of a good commentary/analysis. While having RealPlayer and Flash are better than nothing, both are closed proprietary applications with their own problems. Flash is chronically far behind on Linux, I guess Adobe is too poor and untalented to fund development, and RealPlayer is little better than spyware. Opera is a great browser, but it too is closed. When it comes to communications, especially publicly-funded communications, I can't see any justification for anything other than completely open, unencumbered transports. |
thenixedreport Jun 27, 2008 10:27 AM EDT |
On that note, I do have a question for everyone.... If there was a portable music playing device that was open specs-wise, used the Linux kernel, and played only free formats, would you buy it? |
bigg Jun 27, 2008 10:51 AM EDT |
> would you buy it How much would it cost? If it were reasonably priced, I'd buy it. One of the reasons I don't currently have one is that I've seen my wife trying to buy songs for her iPod using something other than iTunes. I have too much respect for myself to pay money to be treated like that. |
jdixon Jun 27, 2008 12:08 PM EDT |
> ...would you buy it? Probably not. I listen to music at home, in the car, and at work. I have CD players/computers at all three places. I don't really need a portable music player. |
tuxchick Jun 27, 2008 12:22 PM EDT |
thenixedreport, I might. Back in the vinyl days the first thing I did with a new LP was copy it to a cassette tape. Commercially-recorded cassettes were such low quality they weren't worth anything to me, and the first scratch on a new LP is heartbreaking. I've stayed away from digital music players because of all the DRM hassles and all the silly folderol over where to acquire the actual music- I can't afford to keep a music lawyer on retainer. But if I could rip my own songs from CDs in a nice open lossless format, or copy high-quality downloadable formats to a portable player, and not worry about jackbooted MAFIAA thugs or stupid DRM schemes, then yeah maybe. As it stands now I'm about fed up with the whole industry and mostly amuse myself by sawing away on my fiddle. The dogs do the singing. |
thenixedreport Jun 27, 2008 12:29 PM EDT |
Okay, so imagine if the device not only utilized free formats, it also did so without DRM? Besides, wouldn't it be awesome to grab some tunes from Jamendo and put it onto such a device? After all, songs on that site are licensed under Creative Commons. :) |
rijelkentaurus Jun 27, 2008 12:36 PM EDT |
A lot of portable devices play OGG files, they just rarely say they do. |
thenixedreport Jun 27, 2008 12:39 PM EDT |
I'm talking about a portable device that would not only play OGG, but would say so right on the package. It would be for FOSS enthusiasts. ;) |
happyfeet Jun 27, 2008 1:17 PM EDT |
Quoting: sawing away on my fiddle @TC - hey, a fellow fiddler! (I don't have dogs but if I did they would probably be singing too...) |
Scott_Ruecker Jun 28, 2008 7:33 AM EDT |
Did I or did I not see something in the video that said that the player cost $130 million dollars or pounds to develop? Or am I just seeing things? |
tracyanne Jun 28, 2008 3:32 PM EDT |
there's a very interesting article about the BBC and Linux in this issue http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=New... of Linux Format, a UK Linux magazine. The Linux people won. |
NoDough Jun 28, 2008 4:21 PM EDT |
Quoting:Did I or did I not see something in the video that said that the player cost $130 million dollars or pounds to develop? Or am I just seeing things?At 46 seconds in a subtitle. It doesn't specify dollars or pounds, but refers the viewer to groklaw.net. A quick search on Groklaw yields this post [url=http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20071108235140236&title=iPlayer development cost £130 million pounds&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=644095#c644300]http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20071108...[/url] which specifies pounds. |
techiem2 Jun 28, 2008 4:24 PM EDT |
Quoting:On that note, I do have a question for everyone.... If there was a portable music playing device that was open specs-wise, used the Linux kernel, and played only free formats, would you buy it? /me looks at his Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting original firmware and Rockbox Ok, I'm not sure how open the specs are on it (and they don't make that model anymore anyway), but they did make it very clear on the site that it supports ogg and works in Linux and Mac. Of course, with Rockbox on it, I never bother to boot the original firmware anymore. But yes, if someone made one specifically targeting FOSS folks, I'd definitely look into it. /me wonders how well the Openmoko Freerunner will do with media playback.... |
thenixedreport Jun 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT |
Reason why I've been asking: I've been thinking up such a device in my head... |
Scott_Ruecker Jun 29, 2008 9:16 PM EDT |
So with the Dollar sitting at about 2 to 1 against the British Pound, that's $230 million dollars.. For a Windows only media player.. They soaked the BBC for a cool $230 million.. I'm impressed. |
NoDough Jun 30, 2008 9:48 AM EDT |
Quoting:So with the Dollar sitting at about 2 to 1 against the British Pound, that's $230 million dollars..That's 260 million US dollars. I can understand missing by $30 million today, but that used to be a lot of money. :) |
tuxchick Jun 30, 2008 9:51 AM EDT |
hi happyfeet, The cats aren't too crazy about it either. I tell ya, artists get no respect! |
Sander_Marechal Jul 02, 2008 10:45 PM EDT |
Quoting:On that note, I do have a question for everyone.... If there was a portable music playing device that was open specs-wise, used the Linux kernel, and played only free formats, would you buy it? It depends on whether you consider mp3 an open format. No mp3 support == no sale. About half my library is in mp3 and I'm not willing to convert that to ogg (converting one lossy format to another lossy format is bad for audio quality). If it has mp3 support I'd buy one for my girlfriend. Personally I don't need one. I'm getting an OpenMoko Freerunner and listen to my mpd/icecast server over wifi and gsm broadband all day long. |
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