I should be excited by this.... but I'm not
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| caitlyn Mar 21, 2009 4:39 PM EDT |
When Phoenix, later Firebird, now Firefox first appeared it was supposed to be a small, lightweight browser. Nowadays it's a poster child for bloat. I probably will look at Fennec but why do I have a hard time believing that it will be small, fast, or better than what's already out there? |
| Sander_Marechal Mar 21, 2009 7:06 PM EDT |
Poster child for bloat? Firefox is many things but I've never heard it called that. IMHO it is lightweight compared to the competition. Just don't get tempted by installing extensions. |
| tuxchick Mar 21, 2009 8:28 PM EDT |
"Bloat" is a term that gets misused a lot, methinks, though naturally not by fine LXer persons. I've heard crusty old geekbeards complain about any executable over 100K and yelling "bloated! evil!" just because it's bigger. I call Vista bloated because it's 14+ gigabytes of lard, with no useful functionality to show for all that additional Crisco. The Linux kernel has grown considerably over the years, but the extra size is pretty much all functional, and it's very customizable, so I don't consider that bloat. I've never thought of Firefox as being particularly lean, though it's a whippet compared to the old spaghetti-fed Jabba that was Netscape. Since Web designers insist on infesting sites with gobs of nasty inefficient javascript, why do we need a Web browser at all? Heck, let's just have a minimal framework for executing all of that lovely remote scripting. And that is my stream-of-consciousness serving for the day. Bon appetit! |
| Sander_Marechal Mar 21, 2009 8:33 PM EDT |
Quoting:Heck, let's just have a minimal framework for executing all of that lovely remote scripting. Chromium? |
| gus3 Mar 21, 2009 8:39 PM EDT |
Well, Crisco is useful for something in most households. Most of Vista is not. |
| caitlyn Mar 21, 2009 8:52 PM EDT |
Firefox is larger, heavier and slower than Opera which has pretty much the same functionality. Ditto Konqueror which lags a bit as a browser but includes a full featured file manager. Yes, Seamonkey is worse but it is far more than a browser. So is Opera for that matter. |
| vainrveenr Mar 21, 2009 11:45 PM EDT |
Quoting:Firefox is larger, heavier and slower than Opera which has pretty much the same functionality.OTOH, at almost the complete opposite end of the spectrum is the minimalist DIllo web browser (see http://www.dillo.org/), with much less functionality. As the Wikipedia on Dillo writes: Quoting:Dillo is a minimalistic web browser particularly intended for older or slower computers and embedded systems. It supports only plain HTML/XHTML and images over HTTP; other aspects of web pages, such as scripting and styling, it ignores.[2] Dillo is available for Linux, BSD, Solaris and Mac OS X. Due to its small size, it is the browser of choice in several space-conscious Linux distributions. Released under the GNU General Public License, Dillo is free software.from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dillo Despite its severe lack of complete functionality, Dillo has managed to become the default web browser for Vector Linux and DSL! A further review of Dillo at TuxArea's 'Dillo 2.0 Gets Tab Browsing', linked to via LXer at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/110615 |
| gus3 Mar 21, 2009 11:55 PM EDT |
And then there's Links, which I'm using right now to post this comment. Just sayin'. |
| Scott_Ruecker Mar 22, 2009 1:05 AM EDT |
Quoting:Firefox is larger, heavier and slower than Opera which has pretty much the same functionality. if that is true then why can I not watch any videos without it getting choppy inside of ten seconds? I am at my Sisters house this weekend and both my Sister and Brother-in-law both run Mac's. Opera could not, with 2gigs of RAM show a movie preview of the new Star Trek movie without locking up both their computers. but my computer, PCLOS with FF watched it just fine, so if FF is a bloated hog, its fooling me..and my Sister.. |
| gus3 Mar 22, 2009 8:59 AM EDT |
Scott, Just to drive the point home, could you pop in a Knoppix or Ubuntu or $FAVORITE live CD into one of their systems and try it again? Part of the reason I ask, is that there may actually be a hardware limitation that no wonderful OS will overcome. |
| caitlyn Mar 22, 2009 11:47 AM EDT |
@vainveenr: Dillo is NOT the default browser in Vector Linux. In Vector Linux 6.0 it's Firefox on the Standard version and Opera on the Light version. In 5.x it was Seamonkey. Dillo has always been offered as a lightweight alternative but certainly not as the default. @Scott: I've had just the opposite results on my Toshiba so I don't know what to tell you. |
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