Why not just use Mint?
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| Author | Content |
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| cmost Feb 04, 2015 4:41 PM EDT |
I fail to see what problem Ubuntu MATE solved when we already had the highly polished Linux Mint MATE edition! Since Mint is using Ubuntu's base anyway (with lots of Mint tools and customizations incorporated along with codecs, flash, etc.) what's the point of Ubuntu MATE? |
| the_doctor Feb 04, 2015 5:41 PM EDT |
> cmost I second the motion! |
| Steven_Rosenber Feb 04, 2015 11:10 PM EDT |
In the many interviews I've heard with the project leader, Martin Wimpress, I think he wants to use the Ubuntu base, with all the Ubuntu updates (some of which Mint chooses not to push to users), and he thinks that trading off the Ubuntu name will attract more users. I'm not sure what the current dist-update situation is for Mint, but Debian and Ubuntu have a longer history of that working. |
| seatex Feb 04, 2015 11:22 PM EDT |
This was exactly what I said when Ubuntu MATE was announced. Why? We already have it in Linux Mint MATE. Speaking of Linux Mint MATE... I've been going through my storage of old computers and parts - trying to do something with the stuff or toss it in the garbage. Anyway, I have four older PCs that were either missing power supplies, memory, hard drives, or any combination of those items. I was able to find most of the missing items in my parts bins. Well, one of these PCs is a 2006 Dell B110 with a 2.53 GHz Celeron D processor (which was slow even in 2006). After adding a like-new 350W Antec PSU, 2GB of PC3200 DDR memory, and an 80GB WD IDE hard drive, I installed 32-bit Linux Mint 17.1 MATE. I was worried about the integrated intel graphics, but it runs surprisingly well. It even plays Youtube videos fullscreen on a 17" 1280x1024 LCD monitor. Still, I disabled the Compiz bits, along with compositing, to avoid any potential issues. So, what am I going to do with it? It is going into a clubhouse at an RV Resort, for public use. It's free to them, and cheap advertising for me. And on the desktop, I placed a PDF letter titled, "About This Computer". Here is most of what it says... Quoting:Hello, Just my way of promoting Linux to the public, and hopefully getting more clients. |
| Jeff91 Feb 05, 2015 1:02 AM EDT |
Why do we need Mint when we have Ubuntu? Why do we need Ubuntu when we have Debian? Why do we need Debian when we have Windows? More choice is always good. As long as both projects are making contributions to the upstream desktop they are using everyone wins. ~Jeff |
| BernardSwiss Feb 05, 2015 3:33 AM EDT |
Quoting: Why do we need Debian when we have Windows?Say... you're new around here, aren't you? :) |
| notbob Feb 05, 2015 2:12 PM EDT |
@Bernard I think Jeff may have meant, why do we need another locked down OS (systemd) when we already have Windows and Macs, for that. Or not. ;) |
| mrider Feb 05, 2015 4:17 PM EDT |
Quoting:Why do we need Debian when we have Windows? I was going to write a detailed answer, but my computer needs to do a reboot after an update. (snark) |
| gary_newell Feb 06, 2015 5:04 AM EDT |
I think Ubuntu MATE just completes the set (well almost, Cinnamon isn't a done deal). Ubuntu now has Unity, MATE (via Ubuntu MATE), XFCE (via Xubuntu), Gnome (via Ubuntu Gnome), LXDE (via Lubuntu) and KDE (via Kubuntu) It gives Ubuntu users desktop options but separates the projects enough so that they are clearly distinguishable. |
| Jeff91 Feb 06, 2015 8:12 PM EDT |
Ubuntu still lacks Enlightenment Gary. Take that to mean whatever you will ;) |
| jdixon Feb 06, 2015 9:27 PM EDT |
There isn't an official RatPoison version either. :( |
| flufferbeer Feb 07, 2015 3:27 PM EDT |
@jdixon, > There isn't an official RatPoison version either. :( Seems that NOT a whole lot of distros have RatPoison versions or even the slightly more utilized Fluxbox and JWM window-mgrs. OTOH, it would be SUPER AWESOME if Clem Lefebvre could put forth a lightweight LXDE version of LM as the Baboontoo's now do for their Lubuntu. Now that lead dev Philip Newborough is discontinung CrunchbangLinux, maybe Clem could even consider putting out an OPENBOX version of Mint, eh!??? 2c |
| gary_newell Feb 07, 2015 5:50 PM EDT |
I don't get why there is (X)ubuntu, (L)ubuntu and (K)ubuntu but then there is Ubuntu MATE and Ubuntu Gnome. Why not (M)ubuntu and (G)ubuntu. Maybe (G)ubuntu would have to be (Gn)ubuntu to take care of the silent G. I reckon Crunchbang will be back at some point. Jeff couldn't keep away from Bodhi and Point Linux made a return this year as well. Other than Bodhi, which distros promote Enlightenment in a good light? |
| BernardSwiss Feb 07, 2015 8:29 PM EDT |
I haven't been running it since my old laptop died. But I liked it. (I've been thinking about putting it on my "new" laptop, seeing how it compares in terms of battery usage). And I'm still seeding 'Waldorf' (the non-PAE version seems the most popular). The torrents are still active, so I guess I'll leave that going for now... |
| mbaehrlxer Feb 08, 2015 12:01 PM EDT |
gnubuntu would annoy people that would expect a gnu-focused-distribution (hurd?) with that name. as for crunchbag, my understanding is that what it does can now be achieved with vanilla debian: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=416517#p41651... , which is quite different from the bodhi situation. greetings, eMBee. (edit: typo) |
| Jeff91 Feb 08, 2015 2:40 PM EDT |
Quoting:Other than Bodhi, which distros promote Enlightenment in a good light? Not many (any?) that I know of. Many of the other distros that even provide a default E disc are just an after thought and they are not of good quality. ~Jeff |
| CFWhitman Feb 10, 2015 12:58 PM EDT |
Other than Elive (which I don't count as a regular distribution) there used to be GEULinux and MoonOS, but I believe those are both now defunct. Perhaps SparkyLinux? It also supports LXDE and I haven't tried it, so I cant vouch for how good or bad it may be. |
| Jeff91 Feb 10, 2015 11:07 PM EDT |
OpenGEU and MoonOS were both defunct before I started Bodhi four~ years ago. |
| BernardSwiss Feb 11, 2015 12:02 AM EDT |
This brings to mind a question -- just why is Enlightenment gathering so little momentum or even attention? Any ideas? |
| Jeff91 Feb 11, 2015 1:47 AM EDT |
Their lack of formal releases scared distros/people away for a long time. At this point I have no idea though. Wondering why the masses do what they do will drive you insane. I just use what works for me. ~Jeff |
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