Nvidia says no to free drivers, I say no to Nvidia
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Could Nvidia be in violation of patents/licenses themselves?
Not interfering, but as far as I know not helping either, and I've read somewhere that they've successfully stopped a previous effort on making a free driver (by RE). Don't quote me on that though.
That said, your guess about violations is as good as any. Bottom line is we can't know what they're hiding under that "intellectual property" they wish to "protect", even when we buy their cards.
So we might as well not buy them then. AMD is good enough.
Cheers
That said, your guess about violations is as good as any. Bottom line is we can't know what they're hiding under that "intellectual property" they wish to "protect", even when we buy their cards.
So we might as well not buy them then. AMD is good enough.
Cheers
Ya know....I wonder how much progress in video acceleration has really been made? Back in the olden days, oh I don't know, 1999 or so, I had an 8-megabyte Trident-based PCI 3D video card that was well-supported with OSS drivers. As I recall it took some manual tweaks in xorg.conf to enable hardware acceleration, something to do with DRI and other weird crap I still don't bother to understand. With that card I could play Tux Racer, Quake II, and a bunch of other gory first-person shooters I forget now. There were many different video chipsets to choose from, and a lot of them had good native Linux support.
Fast-forward to now. Modern video cards have bypassed the AGP bus and now use PCI-e or something even more exotic. They are more powerful than my PC in 1999, with mondo GPUs, 512 megs ram, and their own cooling fans. Nvidia is pretty much it for both linux and windoze. The Linux drivers have fewer features than their windows cousins and are big fat pains to install and maintain. ATI are poo on all platforms, though hopefully that is changing.
Other than those two, what else is there? Intel's graphics thingies are still babies. I don't even remember all the other brands from the olden days. Seems like we ought to have super-duper video for cheap and for everyone.
Fast-forward to now. Modern video cards have bypassed the AGP bus and now use PCI-e or something even more exotic. They are more powerful than my PC in 1999, with mondo GPUs, 512 megs ram, and their own cooling fans. Nvidia is pretty much it for both linux and windoze. The Linux drivers have fewer features than their windows cousins and are big fat pains to install and maintain. ATI are poo on all platforms, though hopefully that is changing.
Other than those two, what else is there? Intel's graphics thingies are still babies. I don't even remember all the other brands from the olden days. Seems like we ought to have super-duper video for cheap and for everyone.
> AMD is good enough.
Not yet. But they'll get there rapidly. And when they do pretty much every Linux user will move to them. As a complete guess, I'd estimate the linux market at somewhere between 5-10% of NVidia's sales. That might not be enough to change their minds, but it's got to hurt.
> Other than those two, what else is there?
The big three are NVidia, ATI, and Intel. Via is a far distant fourth and (like Intel) seems to do only onboard video. As far as I know, that's pretty much it.
A quick check reveals that the only other manufacturer besides NVidia and ATI listed under Desktop Graphics/Video Cards on New Egg is AGEIA. I've never heard of them, so it looks like I have some research to do.
Not yet. But they'll get there rapidly. And when they do pretty much every Linux user will move to them. As a complete guess, I'd estimate the linux market at somewhere between 5-10% of NVidia's sales. That might not be enough to change their minds, but it's got to hurt.
> Other than those two, what else is there?
The big three are NVidia, ATI, and Intel. Via is a far distant fourth and (like Intel) seems to do only onboard video. As far as I know, that's pretty much it.
A quick check reveals that the only other manufacturer besides NVidia and ATI listed under Desktop Graphics/Video Cards on New Egg is AGEIA. I've never heard of them, so it looks like I have some research to do.
OK AGEIA is not a video card as such. It's a video effects processor, used in conjunction with a video card to enhance the realism of the video. As such, it's not in the same market as ATI and NVidia. It's was also apparently purchased by NVidia earlier this year.
So, the big two in desktop graphics cards are ATI and NVidia, with Intel and Via also being players in the onboard graphics market.
Added:
Matrox appears to still be in the market, but they're only listed under the Workstation Graphics heading, not Desktop Graphics.
So, the big two in desktop graphics cards are ATI and NVidia, with Intel and Via also being players in the onboard graphics market.
Added:
Matrox appears to still be in the market, but they're only listed under the Workstation Graphics heading, not Desktop Graphics.
If somebody could ask Matrox if they could come back to the FOSS market....
@Nixed: Been there...done that. Their response was a fairly polite
GPUAR.
Go ATI! I will divorce the binary blob that is Nvidia in half a heart beat when they make this happen. And just Oh By The Way...
What the hell happened to this Open Source Video Card that was being developed (seems to me I remember some corporation took over the sponsorship so as the lack of funding wouldn't be an issue)?
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GPUAR.
Go ATI! I will divorce the binary blob that is Nvidia in half a heart beat when they make this happen. And just Oh By The Way...
What the hell happened to this Open Source Video Card that was being developed (seems to me I remember some corporation took over the sponsorship so as the lack of funding wouldn't be an issue)?
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> What the hell happened to this Open Source Video Card that was being developed...
I think it's current status can be found here: http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php
I think it's current status can be found here: http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php
Quoting:@Nixed: Been there...done that. Their response was a fairly polite
GPUAR.
I wonder what would happen if more people politely insisted.........
GPUAR?
> GPUAR?
Go **** up a rope.
Go **** up a rope.
Link not working ...
It appears that MySQL is having problems ... (is this a surprise? MySQL isn't fit for Enterprise work.)
Here's the error I'm seeing:
Unable to connect to database server
This either means that the username and password information in your settings.php file is incorrect or we can't contact the MySQL database server. This could mean your hosting provider's database server is down.
The MySQL error was: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11).
Currently, the username is nuxorg_nuxorg and the database server is localhost.
* Are you sure you have the correct username and password? * Are you sure that you have typed the correct hostname? * Are you sure that the database server is running?
For more help, see the Installation and upgrading handbook. If you are unsure what these terms mean you should probably contact your hosting provider.
Here's the error I'm seeing:
Unable to connect to database server
This either means that the username and password information in your settings.php file is incorrect or we can't contact the MySQL database server. This could mean your hosting provider's database server is down.
The MySQL error was: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11).
Currently, the username is nuxorg_nuxorg and the database server is localhost.
* Are you sure you have the correct username and password? * Are you sure that you have typed the correct hostname? * Are you sure that the database server is running?
For more help, see the Installation and upgrading handbook. If you are unsure what these terms mean you should probably contact your hosting provider.
I just tried it and it worked for me. Not that I bothered to read the article, mind you. I think the headline says all I need to know.
Link is working for me too
It's working for me now, as well.
Web host was upgrading MySQL (without notifying me first!) and that's why it went down for a short bit. My apologies.
The host is actually sponsoring the site so I still decided to stick with them for a while, but otherwise I would've moved it to my VPS already where these sorts of things don't tend to happen (more control).
Cheers
The host is actually sponsoring the site so I still decided to stick with them for a while, but otherwise I would've moved it to my VPS already where these sorts of things don't tend to happen (more control).
Cheers
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At least they are not interfering with efforts to reverse engineer specifications for FOSS drivers.