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'Lenny': Debian for the masses?

Posted by Scott_Ruecker on · 5 comments
The Register; By Scott Gilbertson
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The venerable Debian Linux distribution has experienced a significant new release with its latest update, dubbed Lenny. While Debian is still not the easiest Linux distro to install and use, Lenny makes significant leaps forward and remains one of the most powerful Linux options. Many Linux newcomers stick with popular distros like Ubuntu or Fedora and feel intimidated by the likes of Debian. As Linux evangelist Mark Pilgrim once quipped, Ubuntu "is an ancient African word meaning 'can't install Debian'".

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Comments (5)

This one wasn't too bad. What I either missed or didn't see was whether it's possible to boot into the graphical installer without knowing the "secret code" at the boot line.
Well, if they told what the secret code is, it wouldn't be a secret, would it?
When booting, it asks, "Install, Graphic Install, Advanced, Rescue" and such.

Under "Advanced" is the option to decide to install another desktop environment by default. KDE, XFCE, etc.

I've been playing with it, finding out what installs with and without network attachment, and I'm running into a serious problem with the NetInstall. It gets to "Select and install software" and gets an unrecoverable error.

At this point, it could be that I'm installing into VirtualBox and something is conflicting, but that just doesn't seem to make sense. I'm going to try the full CD and do the Bootable Business Card image again, just to make sure that it's just the NetInstall that's failing.

Ok, installer.

KDE CD#1 works fine, even asks before going to a network mirror. It just works. Debian CD#1 is Gnome, but that isn't mentioned, and XFCE also gets its own CD#1. Since it's Debian, changing later is as easy as "apt-get install KDE" or whatever.

The NetInstall ~150MB CD image continues to give me grief. I will try downloading it again, just to see if somehow, regardless of its own protestations to the contrary, something got scrambled.

The ~35MB Business Card image worked fine. Gnome is still the default (and never named) desktop, but the others are easily found.

The NetInst and BC versions, however, have made impossible one thing that worked way back in Woody days: Minimal install without a network.

Oh sure, what I got from the BC install was so minimal as to be impossible to use to get real work done, but it was near Damn Small Linux sized and a nice way to start building a "only what I really need" system.

However, since the vast majority of people who will use a Debian install disk want, well, a Debian system (everything, the kitchen and mud-room sinks, and the entire contents of the garage), I'll have to call it good.

Thanks, Debian Developers.
Quoting:KDE CD#1 works fine, even asks before going to a network mirror. It just works. Debian CD#1 is Gnome, but that isn't mentioned, and XFCE also gets its own CD#1. Since it's Debian, changing later is as easy as "apt-get install KDE" or whatever.
Two questions one might (or even should?) ask on this, are:

1) How stable and "fine-working" is Lenny 5.0.0 for platforms other than i386 ?? debian-500-architecture-kde-CD-1.iso downloads via http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/

2) How "fine" does LXDE work on Lenny-stable 5.0.0 (as opposed to KDE or XFCE-only) ?? According to the LXDE Debian wiki, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Debian,
Quoting:LXDE require Debian testing (Lenny) or Debian unstable (Sid) to satisfy dependencies to libc6.

aptitude update aptitude install lxde

alternative if you want a minimal lxde without its recommended apps:

aptitude install --without-recommends lxde


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