Advanced

Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal

Posted by zinoune on · 9 comments
What I Couldn't Say…; By Jonathan Schwartz
Mail this story
Print this story

In 2003, after I unveiled a prototype Linux desktop called Project Looking Glass*, Steve called my office to let me know the graphical effects were “stepping all over Apple’s IP.” (IP = Intellectual Property = patents, trademarks and copyrights.) If we moved forward to commercialize it, “I’ll just sue you.” My response was simple. “Steve, I was just watching your last presentation, and Keynote looks identical to Concurrence – do you own that IP?” Concurrence was a presentation product built by Lighthouse Design, a company I’d help to found and which Sun acquired in 1996. Lighthouse built applications for NeXTSTEP, the Unix based operating system whose core would become the foundation for all Mac products after Apple acquired NeXT in 1996. Steve had used Concurrence for years, and as Apple built their own presentation tool, it was obvious where they’d found inspiration. “And last I checked, MacOS is now built on Unix. I think Sun has a few OS patents, too.” Steve was silent.

Full Story

  Nav
» Read more about: Story Type: News Story; Groups: Linux, Sun

» Get new stories by e-mail: nightly or as they are published

« Return to the newswire homepage

  Related stories
» More like this

Comments (9)

techiem2 ·
This one IS Jonathan. :P
Scott_Ruecker ·
Have you ever had one of those says? ;-) I have..

Fixed.
jacog ·
That aside, awesome article! Very interesting "from the horse's mouth" reading.
tracyanne ·
I think this is very interesting, in the light of all the angst over Mono.

Quoting: As in life, bluster and threat are commonplace in business – especially the technology business. So that interaction was good preparation for a later meeting with Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer. They’d flown in over a weekend to meet with Scott McNealy, Sun’s then CEO – who asked me and Greg Papadopoulos (Sun’s CTO) to accompany him. As we sat down in our Menlo Park conference room, Bill skipped the small talk, and went straight to the point, “Microsoft owns the office productivity market, and our patents read all over OpenOffice.” OpenOffice is a free office productivity suite found on tens of millions of desktops worldwide. It’s a tremendous brand ambassador for its owner – it also limits the appeal of Microsoft Office to businesses and those forced to pirate it. Bill was delivering a slightly more sophisticated variant of the threat Steve had made, but he had a different solution in mind. “We’re happy to get you under license.” That was code for “We’ll go away if you pay us a royalty for every download” – the digital version of a protection racket.

Royalty bearing free software? Jumbo shrimp. (Oxymoron.)

But fearing this was on the agenda, we were prepared for the meeting. Microsoft is no stranger to imitating successful products, then leveraging their distribution power to eliminate a competitive threat – from tablet computing to search engines, their inspiration is often obvious (I’m trying to like Bing, I really am). So when they created their web application platform, .NET, it was obvious their designers had been staring at Java – which was exactly my retort. “We’ve looked at .NET, and you’re trampling all over a huge number of Java patents. So what will you pay us for every copy of Windows?” Bill explained the software business was all about building variable revenue streams from a fixed engineering cost base, so royalties didn’t fit with their model… which is to say, it was a short meeting.
Read the whole comment
bigg ·
I especially like the part about the patent on patent trolling. I sure wish I'd have thought of that!
techiem2 ·
Yeah, I thought it was quite interesting as well.

Apple/MS: You're stepping on our (probably invalid) patents! Pay us monies!

Sun: Take a look at this list. Do you REALLY want to start a patent fight?

Apple/MS: Um...uh....nevermind...
hkwint ·
This also shows if you have nothing to offer in return.

Novell, Sun etc., they have patents themselves which affect Apple / Microsoft. Sun didn't have patents which affected Kodak, TomTom probably didn't have patents which affected Microsoft - and the list goes on.

Therefore OIN is a good thing I guess, if TomTom-like companies join OIN they'd have some 'ransom'.
Scott_Ruecker ·
I am sorry guys for getting the Authors wrong on these articles..you would think I would know better..you'd think..;-)
techiem2 ·
hehe. Well, the first article the author wasn't really obvious. This article it was kinda obvious if you noticed the actual url, but he doesn't actually have his name in the article anywhere.

Post a comment

A free account is needed to post. Write your comment here first: your text is kept in this browser while you sign up or log in, and is waiting for you when you come back.

Your message:
|||||
10
Markdown: **bold**, *italic*, [text](https://link), - lists, > quotes, $x^2$ for math. Formatting help

Sign up and post (it is free)  or  Log in and post