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Could Oracle fracture open source community?
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I remember seeing the use of the term "zealots" to describe those who didn't want OOo to require Java. Sometimes "pragmatism" is not quite as straightforward a concept as some believe. And sometimes software freedom is about more than a philosophy unrelated to practical computing.
What was the story we saw here recently about accounting for "exit costs"?
My point is that the whole discussion is moot... 99% of Java is GPL'd, and the 1% that Oracle is suing Google over isn't a problem in OOo. IcedTea should take care of that portion, anyway...
> My point is that the whole discussion is moot
Yes it is, but at least in part due to the zealots.
Yes it is, but at least in part due to the zealots.
gus3 wrote: "What was the story we saw here recently about accounting for "exit costs"?
Just checked -- it's the article written by LXer's Hans Kwint:
Exit costs of lock-in: Anticipate or it's too late! http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/139731/index.html
Well worth another read.
Just checked -- it's the article written by LXer's Hans Kwint:
Exit costs of lock-in: Anticipate or it's too late! http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/139731/index.html
Well worth another read.
+1 bigg
> Yes it is, but at least in part due to the zealots.
For sure,... But the, "OMG, we're going to lose OOo now!!!" hysteria doesn't breed more zealots. It scares potential open source adopters away. Saving people money and freeing their minds breeds more zealots. The truth is that OOo faces no threats to its survival. The sky is not falling. Yes, zealots contributed towards ensuring this. But to make more zealots (I count myself as one), you don't run around using "Chicken Little" arguments.
For sure,... But the, "OMG, we're going to lose OOo now!!!" hysteria doesn't breed more zealots. It scares potential open source adopters away. Saving people money and freeing their minds breeds more zealots. The truth is that OOo faces no threats to its survival. The sky is not falling. Yes, zealots contributed towards ensuring this. But to make more zealots (I count myself as one), you don't run around using "Chicken Little" arguments.
I'm already using Abiword and Gnumeric instead of OO ... but what do I use for PowerPoint-style presentations? (Aside from OO Impress, that is ...)
Beamer.
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The problem with that is that anything that they had put into their license to this point has (most probably) been GPL'd... They can't "re-virginize" OpenOffice.org. Plus, since OpenOffice.org is GPL,... If Oracle/Sun stops hosting development, the community is free to fork it. In fact, there had been a call to fork it into an entirely free version, until Sun committed to releasing (most of) Java under theGPL,...
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org#Use_of_Java
While forking would be a blow to future development momentum, it wouldn't change what is available now. OpenOffice.org, as it is, will be available for as long as the source code is located somewhere else, in addition to Oracle/Sun's servers... Besides, the version most people use already IS a fork,... Go-oo.