Quick Look: Ubuntu Muslim Edition 10.10 (Sabily Al Quds)

Carling:

We encourage you to submit non-Ubuntu related stories here: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/stories/stories

If they're about open standards, open source, free software and / or Linux, not too much about politics, I'm pretty sure they will make it to the front page.

Articles will make it to the frontpage even if editors don't agree, think the article is worthless, full of spelling errors or other perceived problems. We don't want to dictate what visitors should read, that's their own choice. We only look at the criteria.

Most Ubuntu-articles meet the criteria above, hence you will see lots of them on the front page. Again, we encourage any reader to post interesting articles meeting the criteria to LXer; it makes life of the editors (>95% our EiC Scott Ruecker) so much easier!

now I see that there were at least three separate LXer comments to that tracyanne post 'Problem installing/running Ubuntu/Mint on Toshiba notebook', when AT LEAST ONE of the commentators essentially neglects the supposedly user-responsive Ubuntu/Mint community forums OUTSIDE OF LXer. huh?? And those ever-increasing Ubuntu-related Unity/Wayland comments :/ Surrrre nobody's promoting Ubuntu, and a /wink wink/ ;) ;) at that. -fb

@fb, what I find interesting is that so many people elected to create a new thread rather than continue the first thread, which would have been, in this case, so much more useful.

I participate in another online forum with very strict moderation where posters are admonished not to derail threads, said threads are split off by moderators into new forums ... and I much prefer the way things are over here.

@carling; No LXer is not becoming a Ubuntu brainwashing site.

Believe it or not I reject many many Ubuntu related articles (then again I reject a lot of articles period) because as the person who willingly sifts through the din of articles that are submitted to us and all the articles that come in through our webcrawler as well as my own collection of RSS feeds even I get tired of hearing about Ubuntu.

Crazy I know, but true. Just because someone writes an article about Ubuntu it doesn't mean that it makes our newswire. That said, Ubuntu is the Juggernaut of Linux distros right now. I know that no one will believe me, but it will not stay that way forever and a day will come that another version will come of age and superseed Ubuntu even. Even more craziness, I know. But I can say with confidence that I have been doing this long enough to know that it will happen, eventually..

Scott

Hey Scott, then all those people who can't stand a popular Linux OS that isn't the one they are running can complain about a different brand than Ubuntu.

Being an Ubuntu user the number of articles about how to do things I haven't done yet are good for me. I must admit though that I can see the day approaching when I will have to switch to something else, even if it doesn't work as well for me. Unity is one reason. I have a sub-notebook on which I run Ubuntu 10.04 UNR because I like working with the programs full screen (I'm well over 50 and the 1280x800 12" screen isn't the best for my eyes). I tried 10.10 on it and got Unity. They can keep it.

I may feel the same way about Wayland. So, I keep trying other distributions and maybe some day one will fit my way of doing things better than Ubuntu.

Like it or not, Ubuntu is doing a very good job at fulfilling a number of needs — an easy first distro, easy multimedia, lots of people willing to help (and not just say RTFM), focus on the desktop and drivers, blingy.

I have one Ubuntu 10.04 laptop, another with Debian Lenny (with my "main" laptop running Fedora 13). While the installation of Debian isn't forbiddingly difficult, Ubuntu's is way more friendly/foolproof. Fedora is doing a better and better job of marketing itself, but it's still nowhere near as newbie-friendly and -focused as Ubuntu.

As a writer/typist looking for traffic, sure I've run Ubuntu in the past with part of the reason being that blog entries about Ubuntu get more traffic than entries about any other distribution.

I can tell you that writing about Debian doesn't bring as much traffic. I made a conscious choice to give Fedora a long-term tryout. I suspect that more people use Fedora than you might think, but it's still dwarfed by the onslaught of Ubuntu.

Steven, .. There are way more Fedora users than Ubuntu, by far. By counting downloads the Hats lead. However and unfortunately they tend to be the Strong, Silent type. Their sense of style too is lacking, since they all wear that weird head gear. So by one method or another they count for more.

Just wanted to clue you in - when the facts are not in your favor, be inventive (or innovate) or just plain make it up.

;YBT

> ...lots of people willing to help (and not just say RTFM)...

That and that alone is the one reason I'm willing to recommend Ubuntu to Linux newbies. Being able to go to a forum and ask newbie questions without being insulted for being a newbie is a very valuable thing.

Speaking as a BSD user (mostly Open-, some Free-), unless you do your homework (and even if you do), they'll eat you alive.

Quoting:Speaking as a BSD user (mostly Open-, some Free-), unless you do your homework (and even if you do), they'll eat you alive.

Oh yeah - I ran FreeBSD in the 1990s. After that experience, the lkml seemed mild mannered.

Fedora's marketing emphasis, which you can see right at the top of their newly redesigned website http://fedoraproject.org/ is centered around the slogan, "Freedom. Friends. Features. First."

They're actively looking for contributors, encouraging users to get involved, and generally the Fedora Forums http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ are very helpful.

It sets the tone for the project. If you say "Friends," you pretty much say you're not going to flame somebody for being a newbie and not yet memorizing the man pages.

Sure Fedora has extremely close ties to Red Hat. For some that's a plus, for others not so much. But I think it's pretty clear what's going on vis a vis the profit-seeking Red Hat and the community project that has a lot of Red Hat contributors but is promoting Freedom as one of its four F's.

The Canonical/Ubuntu connection is different. I'm not saying better or worse, just different. There's no SABDFL in Fedora. (Of course OpenBSD does have such a SABDFL, and he's not all that benevolent either. He puts together a great OS, though ...)

Different strokes ...

Now if they werent tied to Fragmented, Frustrating, Fruitless, F****d .rpm's

There are too many Linuxes. We should just standardize on Ubuntu. Why? Because Mark Shuttleworth is dreamy.

no no no, geekdom united, keep the neophytes out, source source source (dependency resolution optional).

Should we test them first by making them walk barefoot on blacktop and then gravel in the summer? If they can do that, then maybe they can use Slackware.

Yes! Worthiness tests! The harder the better, mwahahaa. edlin, Emacs, info pages...

Emacs?

I fail.

> Because Mark Shuttleworth is dreamy...

So when does Angelina Jolie come out with a Linux distro?

I think Angelina Jolie comes out with a Linux distro, the day she finds out she can "adopt" her own distro!