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Be Afraid: US Senate Proposes Cloud Regulation Legislation
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Quoting:It mostly takes an outsider with a different agenda to expose the faults of others. And that doesn't mean they are lying.
That is often true.
Quoting:When multiple other sources publish the same or similar findings, there is no reason to dispute their facts or can't be trusted.
This is trickier. You've probably heard of the echo chamber effect, which is a cool name for an orchestrated propaganda campaign. In this awesome Internet era the echo chamber is nearly instantaneous, and it gives people who are invested in a particular viewpoint warm fuzzies to see it echoed all over. To get facts and to verify stories you need source documents, witnesses, data, and all those fun things that are time-consuming and not fun. Though sometimes it's easy, because there is so much information publicly and easily available.
@tc --
Yup. Amazing how many things that are "sourced" in many places turn out to grow from a single bad seed.
Yup. Amazing how many things that are "sourced" in many places turn out to grow from a single bad seed.
Dino: No reason at all to wonder, please decide for your own!
Why isn't Wall Street in Jail
Invasion of the home snatchers
The great American bubble machine
The Khan Academy offers a great 'course' (for free!) on the Credit Crisis.
BTW I have no idea who Jon Stewart is, but even if the Max Keiser guy is full of rhetoric, sarcasm and exaggeration, it's great to hear at least _one_ US bloke who screams about how big banks are robbing US citizens.
If you're up to date with those (maybe you are; more power to you if so!), by then you'll understand how the banks are robbing you and other US citizens, and why Max Keiser calls them 'financial terrorists'. Then, I suggest you move on to reading BoomBustBlog, the greatest source on the 'credit crisis' I'm aware of, by the guy who foresaw this whole crisis and bankruptcy of Lehman, who explains why Case Schiller and the stress-tests are worthless, and who's currently shorting Apple (even while Goldman Sachs is bullish on AAPL).
Whatever you believe, it's great there's the internet to give 'different opinions' to US citizens which they wouldn't see on TV.
Moreover, no, you don't have to read Rolling Stone magazine to be informed about economics; in my own country several documentaries of how GS, MS, JPM & Co are robbing US citizens have been broadcasted.
Part 1 of "European cities 'hostaged' by investment banks", the other "episodes" (cut for Youtube, the four episodes are one documentary) can be found by exchanging part numbers.
But they're mostly in Italian and Dutch (partially English).
This one is in English, also broadcasted on 'third channel'.
Over here, we have somebody blaming the head of the Dutch Bank (the Dutch FED) and big US banks for being a lobbyist on the Netherlands 'most popular talkshow'. This guy has been warning for a US credit crisis since about I started watching his daily news item (on "fifth channel"), in about 2003. Please watch from 2.04 for the part in English (Paulson before some "hearing committee" explaining why he didn't pay taxes from the hundreds of millions he received from selling his GS-shares).
The problem is, Dutch TV networks do broadcast this kind of documentaries / items on about the most watched TV channels in my country, but US TV networks don't. We even had a documentary about how Chinese real estate will soon burst. So if your networks don't broadcast this kind of documentaries - which _are_ broadcasted outside the US, then if you're in the US and don't know "languages" besides English, all you can do is find your info somewhere else!
Why isn't Wall Street in Jail
Invasion of the home snatchers
The great American bubble machine
The Khan Academy offers a great 'course' (for free!) on the Credit Crisis.
BTW I have no idea who Jon Stewart is, but even if the Max Keiser guy is full of rhetoric, sarcasm and exaggeration, it's great to hear at least _one_ US bloke who screams about how big banks are robbing US citizens.
If you're up to date with those (maybe you are; more power to you if so!), by then you'll understand how the banks are robbing you and other US citizens, and why Max Keiser calls them 'financial terrorists'. Then, I suggest you move on to reading BoomBustBlog, the greatest source on the 'credit crisis' I'm aware of, by the guy who foresaw this whole crisis and bankruptcy of Lehman, who explains why Case Schiller and the stress-tests are worthless, and who's currently shorting Apple (even while Goldman Sachs is bullish on AAPL).
Whatever you believe, it's great there's the internet to give 'different opinions' to US citizens which they wouldn't see on TV.
Moreover, no, you don't have to read Rolling Stone magazine to be informed about economics; in my own country several documentaries of how GS, MS, JPM & Co are robbing US citizens have been broadcasted.
Part 1 of "European cities 'hostaged' by investment banks", the other "episodes" (cut for Youtube, the four episodes are one documentary) can be found by exchanging part numbers.
But they're mostly in Italian and Dutch (partially English).
This one is in English, also broadcasted on 'third channel'.
Over here, we have somebody blaming the head of the Dutch Bank (the Dutch FED) and big US banks for being a lobbyist on the Netherlands 'most popular talkshow'. This guy has been warning for a US credit crisis since about I started watching his daily news item (on "fifth channel"), in about 2003. Please watch from 2.04 for the part in English (Paulson before some "hearing committee" explaining why he didn't pay taxes from the hundreds of millions he received from selling his GS-shares).
The problem is, Dutch TV networks do broadcast this kind of documentaries / items on about the most watched TV channels in my country, but US TV networks don't. We even had a documentary about how Chinese real estate will soon burst. So if your networks don't broadcast this kind of documentaries - which _are_ broadcasted outside the US, then if you're in the US and don't know "languages" besides English, all you can do is find your info somewhere else!
Gosh, Hans!
It's true in my country, too. Lots of sources for news.
It's true in my country, too. Lots of sources for news.
Well, to stay on topic: I cannot imagine anything as destructive as 'bad mass media'.
Look at Italy, and you'll get the idea.
Look at Italy, and you'll get the idea.
Hans -
Have to agree. Don't know of any nation that is immune to it. Natives, of course, are the last to know.
Have to agree. Don't know of any nation that is immune to it. Natives, of course, are the last to know.
Quoting:This is trickier.
Very Good point TC, What I meant and should have said "Independent Sources".
At any rate, Bob's original comment is right on, though not entirely on-topic. This sums up the article:
I swear most of them poke anything tech-related with sticks and pour holy water on it to keep the debbils from biting them.
Quoting: But if you ever want to kill innovation in a New York minute, let the United States Congress regulate a technology they know absolutely nothing about.
I swear most of them poke anything tech-related with sticks and pour holy water on it to keep the debbils from biting them.
Yeah, indeed, I'm sorry to be off topic, but I just couldn't resist. When my province in NL is about the warmest place in Europe (27C / 80F) I start to behave funny it seems, ahem. We're not used to such temperatures in April - especially not for two weeks consecutively. I shouldn't watch Scientology documentaries maybe, before it gets out of hand. Enfin...
I had to laugh about the 77-year old senator that probably doesn't own a computer.
I'm curious if somebody told him the difference between a "Commodore 64" and the cloud.
On the other hand, politicians in this country - even while not 77 but only in their 40's / 50's don't know poop about "computing" either.
As a kind of practical joke, some journalists over here spoofed phone numbers. Then, they could act like they were the president. He's called "premier" over here as it's a monarchy, and over here the 'little tower' is the equivalent of the White House in the US. So the journalists acted like they were the president, and sent a text message to the minister of foreign affairs: "I'm at the toilet in the little tower, and I'm out of toilet paper". Because the phone number was spoofed, the minister of foreign affairs really believed he received that message from the president.
It shows, bullying politicians by means of technology they don't know about can be really fun!
I had to laugh about the 77-year old senator that probably doesn't own a computer.
I'm curious if somebody told him the difference between a "Commodore 64" and the cloud.
On the other hand, politicians in this country - even while not 77 but only in their 40's / 50's don't know poop about "computing" either.
As a kind of practical joke, some journalists over here spoofed phone numbers. Then, they could act like they were the president. He's called "premier" over here as it's a monarchy, and over here the 'little tower' is the equivalent of the White House in the US. So the journalists acted like they were the president, and sent a text message to the minister of foreign affairs: "I'm at the toilet in the little tower, and I'm out of toilet paper". Because the phone number was spoofed, the minister of foreign affairs really believed he received that message from the president.
It shows, bullying politicians by means of technology they don't know about can be really fun!
Certainly, Hans, you would have no direct personal knowledge of this little spoof. Would you?
PowNed, not me.
I've found that I get my "news" mostly from YouTube, which means from lots of different sources including Russia Today, and my economics from Mises.org and LewRockwell.com.
I watch Jon Stewart, once every few months, just for laughs. Like tuning in to see Johnny Carson's monologue, and skipping the rest as irrelevant.
Ooops, did I just date myself?
I watch Jon Stewart, once every few months, just for laughs. Like tuning in to see Johnny Carson's monologue, and skipping the rest as irrelevant.
Ooops, did I just date myself?
I get my news from the Waffle House.
No less accurate and far more entertaining than the "real" news.
No less accurate and far more entertaining than the "real" news.
I get my news from LXer..wait..I run LXer that won't work.
Let me try this again, I get my news from LXer..oh no not again..;-)
Let me try this again, I get my news from LXer..oh no not again..;-)
Scott, you're in the enviable position of deciding what's news and what isn't.
> ... you're in the enviable position of deciding what's news and what isn't.
And he gets to put up with us second guessing him. How's that enviable? :)
And he gets to put up with us second guessing him. How's that enviable? :)
"With great power comes great responsibility.." - Spider-Man/Voltaire
And
"With great powder, comes great responsive skis" -- Jean Claude Killy and others.
"With great powder, comes great responsive skis" -- Jean Claude Killy and others.
The waffle house? Really? You people don't have hairdressers? Or maybe just no hair or something, I don't know.
Where I go, the hairdressers don't speak Dutch that well. So - apart from inet - most of the time I read my news in questionable magazines at the Chinese take-away. It's the most important part of choosing your take-away (even more important than the taste): They shouldn't be so quick they finished my meal before I finished reading the magazine.
BTW: Russia and China are very good at cloud regulation! They can make clouds drop their rain before the clouds reach parts which should stay dry.
And with great powder and responsiveness, usually comes a great white moustache!
Where I go, the hairdressers don't speak Dutch that well. So - apart from inet - most of the time I read my news in questionable magazines at the Chinese take-away. It's the most important part of choosing your take-away (even more important than the taste): They shouldn't be so quick they finished my meal before I finished reading the magazine.
BTW: Russia and China are very good at cloud regulation! They can make clouds drop their rain before the clouds reach parts which should stay dry.
And with great powder and responsiveness, usually comes a great white moustache!
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It mostly takes an outsider with a different agenda to expose the faults of others. And that doesn't mean they are lying.
When multiple other sources publish the same or similar findings, there is no reason to dispute their facts or can't be trusted.