Arch 2013.02.01 (Installation) Screenshot Tour

Quoting:I think we need to include parent involvement into this.

No doubt and that is why many kids are doing just fine, but many more kids, for one reason or another, don't have the proper caring and guidance to avoid the powerful attractions and distractions. Schools need to help in this area but there are too many hollow restrictions and regulations. There are fundamental problems in today's society.

Quoting:Schools need to help in this area but there are too many hollow restrictions and regulations

Too many or too few meaningful regulations of curricula and standards? See what I mean about this turning into a TOS violation in a hurry.

> I think we need to include parent involvement into this.

Oh, I agree. But then, the ultimate form of parental involvement would be home schooling, would it not?

" But then, the ultimate form of parental involvement would be home schooling, would it not?"

If the parents are up for it, for sure. Most of the home schooled kids I've met are usually way ahead scholasticly, sometimes socially, not so much.

> If the parents are up for it, for sure.

Whether most parents are up for it or not is a highly debated (and debatable) subject, which is probably best not discussed here for above mentioned reasons.

I'll merely point out that no one involved in the public education system seems to approve of home schooling, even though they're constantly beating the parental involvement drum. Strange how that works.

Parents can be very qualified to be involved with their children but utterly unqualified to be teachers. Did that ever occur to you?

Quoting:Parents can be very qualified to be involved with their children b ,,,

I certainly agree with that. It takes the involvement of both. Let's not forget that many students have both parents working. It is even gets worse for students of single parent.

Quoting:See what I mean about this turning into a TOS violation in a hurry.

Sorry but I don't see how such a discussion could turn to a violation of TOS. Is it just because it doesn't involve FOSS/Linux?

Neither does this article but there it is in the newsfeed.

Purely political discussions are TOS violations. This has been covered too many times before. A lot of us have been skating on the edge in this thread.

> Did that ever occur to you?

Yes. It has. Lots of things occur to me. As I said, TOS concerns make it an inappropriate discussion beyond that point.

caitlyn wrote:Purely political discussions are TOS violations. ..... A lot of us have been skating on the edge in this thread.

Hilarious!!

FOSS is so political it's almost impossible to speak of it in any other terms. And speaking of skating on the edge, how many children do you currently have in school?

Lastly, Slackware is not jes for experienced users. I adopted Slackware cuz I was a clueless linux newbie and didn't understand much of anything about it. Getting under the hood is how one learns. You don't learn spit by paying a mechanic. It's ludicrous to suggest one can learn linux quicker or better by using a distro plastered over with a buncha Window/Mac GUIs. Use it, perhaps. Learn it? Not gonna happen.

> Use it, perhaps. Learn it? Not gonna happen.

While I agree, most people don't want to seem to learn. They just want to use.

For those people, Slackware isn't an appropriate choice unless you're going to customize it for their needs and support it for them.

Quoting:For those people, Slackware isn't an appropriate choice unless you're going to customize it for their needs and support it for them.

This hits the nail on the head. OTOH, there are some Slackware derivatives that are friendly enough to be appropriate choices. The main thing holding distros like SalixOS and VectorLinux back are relatively small repositories. An experienced Slacker can build any package they want, of course. A typical user, not so much.

Quoting:And speaking of skating on the edge, how many children do you currently have in school?

Why does that matter at all? Is taking an interest in my nieces and nephews who are in school not good enough somehow?

Quoting:Getting under the hood is how one learns. You don't learn spit by paying a mechanic.

That's only true if you want to be a mechanic. Most people can do their jobs very well without ever getting under the hood. Just as you don't have to be a mechanic to be a good and safe driver you don't have to be a Linux admin or developer to make good use of the OS.

Quoting: Lastly, Slackware is not jes for experienced users.

Where did anyone say that it was? What I said, and what I stand by, is that Slackware is a good learning tool for those who want to roll up their sleeves and get under the hood. For those who simply want their computers to work it's inappropriate, just as jdixon says.

caitlyn wrote:Slackware, are all aimed at experienced Linux users

We'll wait while you worm yer way out of it. ;)

Quoting:We'll wait while you worm yer way out of it. ;)

Nothing at all to worm my way out of. I said "Slackware [is] aimed at experienced users." You claimed I said "Slackware is jes for experienced users." Aimed at does not mean "just" or "only". Trying to start a flamewar? Trying to put words in my mouth? Sorry, not going to have it.

caitlyn wrote:You claimed I said "Slackware is jes for experienced users."

Put words in your mouth?

No, that's your specialty. With quote marks, no less! Amazing.

I see this has turned into troll central.

( May I troll a little ? Following this quite amused.

Why don't you all start some Bash scripts ? You see the result of boozing on Friday nights ? LOL ! )

It's Friday. Time to put on some Donna Summer and write code.