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Story: Alan Cox: Moving on from Red HatTotal Replies: 28
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tuxchick

Dec 23, 2008
1:39 PM EST
That's a big change! I hope this means sanity is coming to Intel's drivers :)
dthacker

Dec 23, 2008
1:52 PM EST
Yay! Sorry to see Alan leave RH, but his influence at Intel could be quite helpful. Dave
dinotrac

Dec 23, 2008
1:56 PM EST
If this makes Alan a happier man, it makes me a happier man, too.

He's contributed an awful lot to Linuxland and my bet is that he will contribute a lot more.

Not only that, I'll bet it's going to be a lot of fun being inside the Intel house.
tuxchick

Dec 23, 2008
2:07 PM EST
BTW, nice scoop Sander!
herzeleid

Dec 23, 2008
2:32 PM EST
That's a very interesting scoop indeed. It's a good thing to have a linux kernel guru working for a major hardware vendor.
schestowitz

Dec 23, 2008
4:05 PM EST
Why is Alan Cox moving to the criminal organisation??? They must have paid him handsomely.
herzeleid

Dec 23, 2008
4:14 PM EST
@Roy -

I think alan can change intel more than intel can change alan. Remember, this is the guy who told microsoft to take a hike when they wanted to hire him a few years back.
jdixon

Dec 23, 2008
4:31 PM EST
> Why is Alan Cox moving to the criminal organisation?

Probably because he wants to work to make sure that there are open source drivers for their products, and expects that would be easier to do as an employee than an outsider.
Scott_Ruecker

Dec 23, 2008
4:55 PM EST
Yeah Sander, I did a search on Google and everyone is linking to our post of it. Very cool.

A bigtime scoop for LXer..I like it. ;-)
tracyanne

Dec 23, 2008
6:55 PM EST
Quoting:Why is Alan Cox moving to the criminal organisation???


Of what crimes where they convicted?
Sander_Marechal

Dec 23, 2008
7:12 PM EST
@Scott & Carla: Thanks, but it was pure luck. I happened to check my mail mere seconds after the message arrived and posted it immediately.
Scott_Ruecker

Dec 23, 2008
7:54 PM EST
I got it too but was at that time "caffeine deficient" and didn't even think to post it, unlike Sander thank goodness.. ;-)
tuxchick

Dec 23, 2008
8:47 PM EST
Well, Alan didn't write to me, and I had my coffee. So credit is due :)
dinotrac

Dec 23, 2008
9:12 PM EST
How did Roy manage to find a plot in this one? Alan Cox??

Please.

FWIW, I am sure -- and I certainly hope -- that they did pay him handsomely. He's worth it.
jezuch

Dec 24, 2008
2:08 AM EST
Intel already employs some prominent Linux developers, BTW, and it has a comfortable spot near the top of the list of most prominent employers in LWN's regular "who wrote Linux" summaries. So, Roy, I guess we're using a criminal kernel, then.
penguinist

Dec 24, 2008
9:02 AM EST
Alan,

A lot of us appreciate your outstanding kernel contributions over the years. Good luck in your new association with Intel.
schestowitz

Dec 24, 2008
9:15 AM EST
jezuch,

It's not about employees. As Carla put it at the time:

http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2008-09-12-03...

"FOSS keeps people honest. That’s the #1 reason there is such strong, well-funded opposition to it. Honesty is Kryptonite to anyone who makes their living peddling lies. The big lie that gets my goat every time is these big tech companies that continually boast of their innovation. All they innovate are stagnation and barriers to innovation"

“The poster child for this is the OLPC (One Laptop Per Child). Whatever you may think of OLPC itself, it spawned the netbook revolution. All those titans of industry have had the resources since forever to invent the netbook on their own. They all badmouthed and undermined OLPC. Now they can’t crank out their own OLPC ripoffs fast enough."

http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2006/09/intels_open_so...

http://kerneltrap.org/node/7184

“EX-INTEL ENGINEER CHARGED IN FRAUD ”

http://tinyurl.com/5vfvjs

http://charbax.com/2008/01/04/intel-diamondville-and-menlow-...

“2 days before Intel CEO Paul Otellini would unveil the Classmate 2 or the Intel-powered XO at the CES, Intel announced that they are quitting the OLPC board.”

“Intel claims that they are quitting because of Nicholas Negroponte wanting them to stop the promotion of the Classmate/Eee to education in third world countries, but I think that the real reason is that Intel does not have a good enough processor for the OLPC project to use as an alternative to the AMD Geode LX-700.”

“Intel has not been able to develop a processor to match the price, power consumption and performance requirements of the OLPC project. Paul Otellini could have looked like a fool at the CES if he had to unveil an Intel powered XO that was performing worse in terms of price and power consumption compared to the AMD powered one. “

(”Investors sue Dell on payments from Intel: WSJ”)

[url=http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/investors-sue-dell-payments-intel/story.aspx?guid={400315B0-E375-4920-B300-784220BEFE35}&siteid=yhoo&dist=yhoo]http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/investors-sue-dell-pay...[/url]

Securities fraud (I know there was a recent 1-billion-dollar suit for their bribes with Dell)

Lenovo got financial help from Intel, claim [kickbacks]

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37670

Negroponte says Intel should be “ashamed of itself”

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39733

Then there was Microsoft’s bribe in Nigeria, where Intel also funded the cost of Classmates (selling at a loss):

http://blog.mandriva.com/2007/10/31/an-open-letter-to-steve-...

http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/government-law/pub...

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14124

http://fussnotes.typepad.com/plexnex/2007/11/not-such-a-hars...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/intel_tortellini_epi...

http://www.olpcnews.com/hardware/keyboard/olpc_patent_infrin...

http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9827611-16.html?part=rss&...

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071203061340580

etc etc

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1636915.cms

”Intel eliminates salary allowances to stop fraud […] The Times of India had reported in September last year that the company was conducting a serious investigation into malpractices related to allowance claims, resulting in the exit of several hundred employees.”

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0DEED91631F...

Intel settled, i.e. bailed out. “In that suit, Intel has denied Intergraph’s accusations of fraud, theft of trade secrets and anticompetitive conduct.”

That 1999 settlement could be interesting. It’s also here:

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-7254914_IT...

FTC chief has antitrust plate full.

More here: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse...
bigg

Dec 24, 2008
10:44 AM EST
Professor Schestowitz:

You may not care about my opinion, and I certainly don't care about yours.

But I will say that you know how to hurt FOSS at all times and in all places. You can find something bad to say about anyone, any company, any contributor to FOSS. Don't you get tired of trying to divide the community? Just once you should contribute something.

I can guarantee that both Alan Cox and Intel have done a lot more for FOSS than you ever will. Alan Cox knows why he went to Intel. If it's for the money, good for him, you are in no position to judge him. BTW, how much to you get paid from Microsoft?
tuxchick

Dec 24, 2008
11:01 AM EST
I don't care for the slur on Alan Cox, which I missed on first read. "Why is Alan Cox moving to the criminal organisation??? They must have paid him handsomely." Alan is an honorable man and one of the pillars of Linux, and doesn't deserve to be slimed. For shame, Roy.
Sander_Marechal

Dec 24, 2008
11:13 AM EST
Agreed. Keep the slurs on your own site Roy.
azerthoth

Dec 24, 2008
11:17 AM EST
@Roy, thanks for driving home my point from another thread, it's not about the man because all a man is, is who his his employer is. So I'll remind you as I did them, of Linus' days at Transmeta. A little more thinking cap and a little less tin foil hat, kthxby.
dinotrac

Dec 24, 2008
11:24 AM EST
azer -

I fear you ask something unreasonable of Roy.

Have you ever seen a field goal kicker out of uniform? Not much to see.

What would Roy be without tin foil?
schestowitz

Dec 24, 2008
1:18 PM EST
I have a lot of respect for Alax Cox. The bad word went to Intel, not him (maybe it was phrased poorly and now I can see it).
Scott_Ruecker

Dec 24, 2008
2:36 PM EST
Check it out, we got mentioned. :-)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10128708-16.html
tuxchick

Dec 24, 2008
3:14 PM EST
Brand X likes you too: Editor's Note: Holiday Greetings and Good Wishes, and The Big Story That Got Missed http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2008122401735OSCYKN

Alan Cox: Moving on from Red Hat http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2008122302335INRH
Scott_Ruecker

Dec 24, 2008
3:18 PM EST
Your so good to me Carla, I don't deserve you..lol!
azerthoth

Dec 24, 2008
3:22 PM EST
As long as the check clears on time she'll remain your friend. I was 2 days late with one payment last year and she hasn't been nice to me since.

/humor
dinotrac

Dec 24, 2008
3:26 PM EST
Azer -

She let you go 2 days?

Boy, have I got a bone to pick!
tuxchick

Dec 24, 2008
3:35 PM EST
It's just business, sheesh. Anyway you got to meet my good friend Bruno.

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