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What?
Does Linus know about this?
Some people apparently feel that an article shouldn't be touched or reviewed in a browser once you paste it from edlin.
Still isn't it a funny story about the HP? lol
Quoting:Yes there is a special version of linux called SUN BSD Linux for the NAPA TAMS System.
Could you provide a source for this, it sounds interesting.
Actually that's SUN, BSD, Linux... all of which run the NAPA TAMS System
> it's a part of linux AT&T created.
I believe AT&T created bash on 'Unix', and, it was later ported to Linux, though, certainly not by AT&T.
> maybe someone else created SUSE? but it's owned by Novell
Suse was purchased by Novell. Open SuSe is the community distro. The code is still open source, so, Novell dosn't own it, but only the rights to the name, and, support under that name.
> Linus invented Linux
Actually, Linus only wrote the Linux kernel and has the copyright on the name. Linux is a community effort.
> As far as the formating goes
Granted, we were a bit hard on you. Next time paste it into a text file and view it as html first. It really was a nightmare to read.
No because only TAMS has a copy of this distribution. TAMS won't let anyone touch their precious baby.
Second, the lineage of Linux to the average Windows user is murky, to say the least. Sun BSD Linux? WTF? It sounds like someone from 200 years in the future trying to figure out the difference.
In many ways, usa's misunderstanding of the whole situation is a testament to the success of Linux. Can you really tell the difference? I can't. Boo-hoo, can't play Quicktime.
Come on, people! This is not hard. AT&T did NOT create bash. Not, no way, no how. Bash is a GNU project.
The Bourne shell was developed at Bell labs. It was followed by an improved version called the korn shell. Bash is more or less a bourne/korn workalike, but not exactly.
Quoting:he Bourne shell was developed at Bell labs. It was followed by an improved version called the korn shell. Bash is more or less a bourne/korn workalike, but not exactly.BTW, BASH stands for the "Bourne Again SHell"
sorry guys.
Still isn't it a funny story about the HP? lol
http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2005101323...
Then you'll understand why the phrase "BSD Linux" causes giggles.
However the history is confusing and convoluted, even if you grew up with it it is hard to follow.
Sun was founded by some of the authors of BSD. Solaris is a mix of BSD and Unix and mostly just itself.
BSD was a derivative of Unix. Unix was written at AT&T, but BSD was not. BSD was written at Berkeley. AT&T was regulated by the government, and could not sell Operating systems. So they released a lot of documentation about Unix to schools and did not put copyright notices on it or require everyone to sign NDA's. AT&T effectively released most of the early Unix OS into the public domain by doing this. That's the two line version of how Berkeley was able to write a version of Unix.
Sun has sold a version of Linux. Linux is not based on BSD or Unix. Linux was developed independently with an eye towards a set of public standards called POSIX. POSIX standards were developed by various Unix vendors and published as open standards so anyone could follow them. This is partly why Linux has a 'Unixy-feel', even though it is not based on Unix.
A German company called SuSE developed a version of Linux based on the SLS distribution. SLS is the same distro Slackware was based on. Suse was founded the year before Red Hat, but they both started selling distros about the same time. SuSE started out supporting and installing SLS for people. The SuSE founders wrote a book, popular in Europe, on how to install Linux.
It happens that the version of Linux that Sun sold was based on the SuSE distro, but that's just a weird coincidence. The version of Linux sold by Sun was called the Sun Java Desktop, for some reason obscure to most people.
Sun's Java Desktop was based on Linux, not BSD or Unix.
SuSE was later bought by Novell, who happened to buy Unix and USL from AT&T in the past.
All of these various OS's BSD, Solaris, At&T Unix, Linux are great and each have there own benefit and draw backs.
Saying the words 'We run SUN BSD LINUX' is kind of like saying 'I drive a Chevy Mustang' or saying 'Our IBM Mainframe runs Windows 2000'.
They just don't make sense.
I hope that helps make things perfectly muddy!
AT&T was a monopolistic telephone service provider which was very carefully regulated. When they decided to try to release Unix, they petitioned the federal government for permission. The feds decided they would be allowed to sell it only. No support, no advertisement, nothing but the sale. The net result was deliveries of Unix from AT&T that amounted to, "Here's the tape, here's the manual, don't call us."
The advertisement and support came by word-of-mouth in the academic and research community, using that Intar-web thingy.
> saying 'Our IBM Mainframe runs Windows 2000'.
I suspect Bochs can be made to run on AIX...
Quoting:When you go to the terminal you see [root@SUNLinux]
Meh. I can make mine say [poopyhead@windowsvista]. All it proves is that the guy who chose the hostname for the box doesn't know his history.
'SUNLinux' is the hostname of the machine, chosen by whoever named it probably when they installed the OS.
I have an old Apple IIgs and a copy of Gno/ME that could be set up to show "[root@SUNLinux] as the shell prompt by editing the gshrc file, 'set prompt' line.
Neither of these has anything to do with the names or manufacturers of the software or hardware the machine is running on.
If you don't know this, you should probably not be logging in as root. Not because you don't know history, but becuse you don't know some of the basics of unix shell prompt settings.
It would disturb me if someone with root access did not know how the shell prompt was formatted.
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