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I have seen the future, and it is GNOME 3
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One leap forward, 2 Giant ones backward
I see it as good news, we will soon be seeing a giant uptick in either my favorite Fluxbox, or in another lightweight such as XFCE, LXDE, or some other. The kings are dead (Gnome/KDE) long live the kings (WM's).
I hope to see e17 completed soon - hey, a man can dream, can't he?
I've already swtiched to LXDE.
herzeleid, the perfect gaming box: E18 + Duke Nukem Forever :D
Quoting:herzeleid, the perfect gaming box: E18 + Duke Nukem Forever :DI think that might make a good sig...
For now I only dislike the Gnome Shell feature which is optional I think, I hope it is because its very poorly designed for productivity. It's centered around searching to launch apps, but you can't search if you are new to linux and unfamiliar with the apps and the alien interface.
Also the Shell is not compatible w/ Compiz (at least as of now), so that might piss off some more people too. It has its own compositing system that require a decent graphic card. I will still like Gnome since they are improving and expanding on what's currently. It's too early to judge since Gnome3 is almost a year from now so no need to panic unless you already hated it. As long as they don't impose too much radical changes... well I was trying out LXDE as well just in case they'll screw up like KDE.
Also the Shell is not compatible w/ Compiz (at least as of now), so that might piss off some more people too. It has its own compositing system that require a decent graphic card. I will still like Gnome since they are improving and expanding on what's currently. It's too early to judge since Gnome3 is almost a year from now so no need to panic unless you already hated it. As long as they don't impose too much radical changes... well I was trying out LXDE as well just in case they'll screw up like KDE.
I'm glad Gnome 3.0 is out.
I was rather tired of all the KDE 4 BS ehr- I mean talk - in the forums, it might just be that we are finally rid of it.
Jack Wallen insisted on 'seeing it while it moves' so I watched some Youtube on Gnome 3, but I can't see what all the fuzz is about. The 'migration' of a program-based interface to a task-based interface has been going on longer I guess, it's only logical this trend continues I suggest.
Please wake me up when it outperforms WindowMaker on speed and simplicity. Until then, I'll be watching the show from my bed. Can't wait till spring, the massive Serengeti, I'll see the hypocrite flocks of dissatisfied Gnome users migrating to KDE 4 while peeing over Gnome.
Good thing about Gnome 3 is, at least it reminds of Windows Mobile 7, the 'iPhone OS that never was'.
I was rather tired of all the KDE 4 BS ehr- I mean talk - in the forums, it might just be that we are finally rid of it.
Jack Wallen insisted on 'seeing it while it moves' so I watched some Youtube on Gnome 3, but I can't see what all the fuzz is about. The 'migration' of a program-based interface to a task-based interface has been going on longer I guess, it's only logical this trend continues I suggest.
Please wake me up when it outperforms WindowMaker on speed and simplicity. Until then, I'll be watching the show from my bed. Can't wait till spring, the massive Serengeti, I'll see the hypocrite flocks of dissatisfied Gnome users migrating to KDE 4 while peeing over Gnome.
Good thing about Gnome 3 is, at least it reminds of Windows Mobile 7, the 'iPhone OS that never was'.
I'm sure the GNOME shell will be as popular as the DOS Shell or the WorkPlace Shell (WPS) were in their times.
I think the shell they're talking of is what's going to be left of them if they go full on in this direction and drop 'ye olde gnome' as it is now.
GNOME Shell is pretty much how I use my Computer right now, only I have a fixed number of virtual desktops (9) - actually 9 on the main laptop monitor, and two on the 22 inch external monitor. If only I could find a way to make the VM running Windows see the second Virtual Desktop as a second Monitor, then I could use Windows as if it had a second Monitor.
I rather like GNOME Shell, it fits quite well with how I use my computer, the Menu on the desktop for a full size computer, I'm a little suss about, but it does work well with the small from factor devices. One addition I'd like to see to GNOME shell is the ability to kill a Virtual desktop while there are applications on it
I rather like GNOME Shell, it fits quite well with how I use my computer, the Menu on the desktop for a full size computer, I'm a little suss about, but it does work well with the small from factor devices. One addition I'd like to see to GNOME shell is the ability to kill a Virtual desktop while there are applications on it
Time now for some honest to goodness trolling
KDE Rocks Gnome Sucks
Im with hkwint cant wait for the fun to start and just kick back with a beer and watch the ensuing hilarity as the linux desktop community does what they do best :)
KDE Rocks Gnome Sucks
Im with hkwint cant wait for the fun to start and just kick back with a beer and watch the ensuing hilarity as the linux desktop community does what they do best :)
Sometime, many years in the future, somebody will look back on 2010 and say, "That was the year that KnomDE was born, but...
don't worry. Some good things happened too."
don't worry. Some good things happened too."
Testing Gnome Shell on 10 Inch netbook
I've been testing Gnome shell on a 10 inch Netbook, currently running Ubuntu 10.04, so it would be a pretty recent Gnome Shell.
There are a couple of issues I have with it.
1/ The Linux paradigm of listing applications by category is not used. you have this Find thing , but you need to know what the name of the application is that you want, otherwise how can you find it? Typing in the category doesn't work.
Having Application Categories, wheny ou click on the 'Applications" option, instead of simply listing all the Applications, as the current Application option does, would be good.
2/ I can't hide the top panel. On a full size desktop, it doesn't matter much, although I always have the top and bottom panel set to Auto Hide, no matter what size my desktop is, but on a net book with it's smaller screen real estate having the ability to auto hide the panel(s) is very useful, the extra bit of usable screen space can make a difference.
The ability to zoom an application when in "Activities Show" mode is really useful, as is the Ability to create Virtual Desktops on the fly.
3/ As you open more applications, at least on the netbook, the "Places" section gets pushed off the bottom of the screen.
Maybe redoing this area as a set of reveal areas would work better, and perhaps having a max height setting, so that when the max height is hit would cause the current area to scroll. Doing this would make it possible to have a categories list in the left panel, instead of crowding into the rest of the desktop.
Personally I'd like there to be the ability to close a Workspace that has applications open on it, either simply close the applications, or prompt to move them to another workspace.
I like the concept of Gnome Shell, it has, I believe a lot of potential. Unfortunately there are a few areas that I think need attention, to make it more usable.
There are a couple of issues I have with it.
1/ The Linux paradigm of listing applications by category is not used. you have this Find thing , but you need to know what the name of the application is that you want, otherwise how can you find it? Typing in the category doesn't work.
Having Application Categories, wheny ou click on the 'Applications" option, instead of simply listing all the Applications, as the current Application option does, would be good.
2/ I can't hide the top panel. On a full size desktop, it doesn't matter much, although I always have the top and bottom panel set to Auto Hide, no matter what size my desktop is, but on a net book with it's smaller screen real estate having the ability to auto hide the panel(s) is very useful, the extra bit of usable screen space can make a difference.
The ability to zoom an application when in "Activities Show" mode is really useful, as is the Ability to create Virtual Desktops on the fly.
3/ As you open more applications, at least on the netbook, the "Places" section gets pushed off the bottom of the screen.
Maybe redoing this area as a set of reveal areas would work better, and perhaps having a max height setting, so that when the max height is hit would cause the current area to scroll. Doing this would make it possible to have a categories list in the left panel, instead of crowding into the rest of the desktop.
Personally I'd like there to be the ability to close a Workspace that has applications open on it, either simply close the applications, or prompt to move them to another workspace.
I like the concept of Gnome Shell, it has, I believe a lot of potential. Unfortunately there are a few areas that I think need attention, to make it more usable.
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The problem is that people aren't going to be able to change it...and that's a problem. They'll be stuck with it whether they like it or not on distributions that have only Gnome 3.
This silly desktop is going to completely alienate older computers...required to run compiz components that are built into the shell.
All in all this is one leap forward and two giant leaps backward.