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Department of Homeland and Security wants master key for DNS

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The US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) wants to have the key to sign the DNS root zone solidly in the hands of the US government. This ultimate master key would then allow authorities to track DNS Security Extensions (DNSSec) all the way back to the servers that represent the name system's root zone on the Internet.

[Not Linux related, but definitely of interest to LXer audience — Sander]

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Quoting: Ahem. I'm not an American.
LOL Canadians always say that...
She's Australian.
> Ahem. I'm not an American.

It matters not. All shall bow before Emperor for life George the Second.

Sigh, now if only that didn't have such a ring of truth to it.
Quoting:Sigh, now if only that didn't have such a ring of truth to it.


Hypothetical situation: What would happen if there was another attack similar to 9/11 a couple of weeks before the next election? He could postpone the election for "the safety of the voters", then all he has to do is either invoke Martial Law which with the Patriot Act in place would not be hard to do or he can just keep coming up with reasons that it just isn't "safe enough" for the elections to be held until the voting polls are made safe enough. Carl Rove *cough* I mean President Bush could come up with a thousand reasons as to why we just can't have the election right now..its all a matter of keeping us afraid enough to either not care or not notice.

Think I'm crazy? Well I might be but gaining or keeping power is all in the timing.
> He could postpone the election for "the safety of the voters",

Yes, but not for very long. Neither the Congress, the Supreme Court, nor the people would stand for it. I doubt he could postpone the election for more than a few months without being impeached and removed from office by Congress.
jdixon, are you talking about our Congress? The US Congress? The one what in a move of dizzying courage and daring, passed a non-binding resolution that says "war is teh very bad"?

I get the feeling we don't have quite the same perspective.... ;)

> a non-binding resolution

i.e. believe what we say, but, not what we do. Talk about gutless wonders.
Scott: That prediction reminded me a lot of "V for Vendetta". Scary.
Never saw it,

If our government can fabricate a war for their friends they can figure out a way to "postpone" an election. They want something to happen, why else would you let the head of the CIA tell Congress that we will not be ready for another attack for five years unless you wanted someone to hear it?
> unless you wanted someone to hear it?

What's really scary is that all of the administrations actions have been so openly blatant, especially in the past couple of years. It's pretty obvious that they're gonna do just as they please no matter what the Citizens or anyone else think. Already looks more like a dictatorship than a presidency.
TC:

> The one what in a move of dizzying courage and daring, passed a non-binding resolution that says "war is teh very bad"?

The one that is now firmly controlled by the Democrats, who expect to win the next election handily. There's no way they will let Bush stay in office a day longer than they can.

> I get the feeling we don't have quite the same perspective.... ;)

Actually it's pretty much the same. I just don't think you taking the party divisions into account.

Jimf:

> Already looks more like a dictatorship than a presidency.

I wish I could disagree. Unfortunately, the Bush administration's understanding of limited government, the Constitution, and division of powers has been rather lacking. I don't really expect Hillary to be any better though.
Quoting:Carl Rove *cough* I mean President Bush could come up with a thousand reasons as to why we just can't have the election right now..


Interesting. I didn't know Carl Rove was a friend of Putin a.k.a. the upper house speaker of Russia (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/03/30/russia.consti...).
Sarchasm: n, the unpassable gap between the sarcastic speaker and the listener who just doesn't get it.
So who has their social security number tattooed on their forehead? RFID?
> So who has their social security number tattooed on their forehead? RFID?

The SSN won't cut it. It's only 9 digits. It'll have to be have enough digits to cover everyone, preferably without reuse. That's currently at least 11 digits and counting. They could use hex, which would cut down on the number of digits required. However, I'd place a bet on 18 digits, for some obscure reason.

And don't think mandatory RFID tagging isn't coming. It'll be here within 3 generations. It's the next logical step beyond Real ID (if you're a politician that is).
> Never saw it

You should. For a dark-fantasy-comic-gone-big-screen it's surprisingly realistic and very 1984-ish. It's also an underwater stab at the totalitarian direction the US is going.
_V_ is hardly an "underwater" stab. It's a direct and explicit jab at government itself.

The movie goes into none of the philosophical background that the comic does, unfortunately, and the only time the word "anarchy" is uttered is by some thug as he robs a convenience store.

_V_ was a tryst about the abuse that will always occur when one group is vested with coercive power over others. That it takes the form of a totalitarian government trying to control its "citizens" through fear of "terrorists" merely shows how timeless that theme is.

The philosophy of anarchy, specifically "rules without rulers", is a theme that gets very little active press. Peaceful interaction doesn't make headlines, bomb-throwing chaosists and petty thugs robbing convenience stores does.
I think if enough of this BS continues, there will form an undernet...kinda like there was in IRC.

Wireless MESH networks will pop up and completely bypass the internet backbone. While it won't be incredibly fast, there may be a torrent style backbone that pops up with separate 'nets' coming online and threading themselves together.

People will eventually be fed up and just bypass it. and in those instances...it's their net so no one can tell them what to do with it. The Feds are so far behind the curve that it'd be 20 years before they even talk about stuff like that.

Maybe that net will start on Dark Fiber right?
Like this?

http://www.wirelessanarchy.com/

Dark fiber was a nice idea, but it was rooted in its time.

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