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Dell responds to customer demand for greater interoperability and intellectual property assurance between Windows and Linux.

[Why is this not surprising? - Scott]

REDMOND, Wash. and WALTHAM, Mass., May 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) and Novell Inc. today announced that Dell Inc. is the first major systems provider to join the business collaboration that was formed by Microsoft and Novell in response to customer demand for greater interoperability and intellectual property (IP) assurance. As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.

"We're focused on delivering solutions that help simplify customers' IT operations," said Rick Becker, vice president of solutions at Dell Product Group. "Our customers have told us they want interoperability and expect technology vendors to work better together. Dell is the first major systems provider to align with Microsoft and Novell in this collaboration, and we intend to lead in this space. This move is a huge success for the industry and, more specifically, for customers who haven't purchased Linux through Dell and who want to migrate to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for the IP assurance and interoperability benefits."

Under the agreement, Dell will establish a customer marketing team for migrating Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. The marketing effort will focus on three areas: Interoperability Workshops, Migration Proof of Concepts and Migration Services.

"Dell's embrace of the Novell-Microsoft agreement reflects a growing market reality: The two platforms of the future are Linux and Windows(R), and customers want them to work better together," said Susan Heystee, vice president and general manager of global strategic alliances at Novell. "Novell continues to grow our SUSE Linux Enterprise business because we are addressing customer needs. Dell recognizes this, and we are proud to have them as a customer and marketing partner to help spur continued adoption of SUSE Linux Enterprise."

"The Microsoft-Novell agreement was a result of our customers demanding more of our industry in interoperability and IP protection," said Susan Hauser, general manager of strategic partnerships and licensing at Microsoft. "Customer response to our agreement with Novell has been overwhelmingly positive. Dell has recognized this demand, and it is the first mover in its space to provide these benefits to its customers."

The Microsoft-Novell Agreement

On Nov. 2, 2006, Novell and Microsoft announced a series of agreements to jointly build, market and support new solutions to improve interoperability; deliver powerful new virtualization capabilities; make Microsoft and Novell products work better together; and give customers peace of mind that both companies stand behind the products they deliver.

Since the announcement, more than 40,000 new certificates for three-year priority support subscriptions to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server have been activated under the Microsoft and Novell collaboration agreement. AIG Technologies Inc., Deutsche Bank AG, Credit Suisse, HSBC and Wal-Mart Stores Inc. are among the first companies taking advantage of the benefits of the interoperability agreement between Microsoft and Novell.

More information about the Microsoft and Novell agreement, including other customer announcements, can be found at http://www.moreinterop.com.

About Novell

Novell, Inc. (Nasdaq: NOVL) delivers infrastructure software for the Open Enterprise. Novell is a leader in enterprise-wide operating systems based on Linux and open source and provides the enterprise management services required to operate mixed IT environments. Novell helps customers minimize cost, complexity and risk, allowing them to focus on innovation and growth. For more information, visit http://www.novell.com.

About Microsoft

Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in software, services and solutions that help people and businesses realize their full potential.

NOTE: Microsoft and Windows are trademarks of the Microsoft group of companies.

Novell and SUSE are registered trademarks of Novell, Inc. in the United States and other countries.

The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners.

* Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds.

All other third-party trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

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Comments (131)

My BS meter just pegged

66 earlier comments in the full thread.

>Indirectly, they do, I believe. Novell got money from MS so that MS could say Linux users infringes Microsoft's IP

MS was already saying that. The bottom line is that Microsoft paid Novell a boatload of money.

If you want to make an implication of guilt and IP infringement, how about pointing a finger at the company who shelled out hundreds of millions of dollars?
> Novell got money from MS so that MS could say Linux users infringes Microsoft's IP (probably Novell didn't foresee this, it seems after Novell's reaction to that statement)

They could say that, but they also did say

"Novell is absolutely right in stating that it did not admit or acknowledge any patent problems as part of entering into the patent collaboration agreement."

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/nov06/11-20Sta...

I just don't understand how it is possible to interpret Novell's actions as an admission of IP infringement when even MS says there is no such admission.
>I just don't understand how it is possible to interpret Novell's actions as an admission of IP infringement

Hey look, some people think the moon landings were staged and that the government took the World Trade Center down in a controlled implosion.

Conjuring up an admission of IP infringement is small potatoes.
> Hey look, some people think the moon landings were staged and that the government took the World Trade Center down in a controlled implosion.

You mean it wasn't!!!... And, they didn't!!!
>You mean it wasn't!!!... And, they didn't!!!

But don't tell anyone, OK? I just got the rights to release "Capricorn 1" as a documentary.
Yeah, mum's the word Dino.

/me runs to the phone to tell all his buddies :)
Quoting:I never saw Novell admit to being guilty of anything.
That's because the admission was implied by the action. That why I called it an implied admission.

http://www.rif.org/
>That's because the admission was implied by the action.

So...why aren't you thrilled that Novell got a huge admission from Microsoft that they were stepping all over other people's patents?

Isn't that the logical implication to be drawn by the hundreds of millions of dollars that Microsoft dropped on this deal?
So I should believe that the actions of Microsoft are what they appear to be. Interesting viewpoint.
> Isn't that the logical implication to be drawn by the hundreds of millions of dollars that Microsoft dropped on this deal?

Dino, the logical implication is that both sides wanted access to the other side's IP, and that Microsoft wanted it more. Whether there was any existing infringement isn't something that can be determined from the facts available.
> Bingo!

Rats, missed it by one. Another game?
...and the doubleclick too.
helios quoted :

>Ballmer's worst fear is that GPL3 comes into acceptance. Crystal ball is giving me a 404 and a 503 right now so it's hard to report with any accuracy. But the importance lies in the trepidation, not in the reality. If Ballmer fears the GPL3, then we are left with no other reasonable conclusion that the Novell Treachery was indeed a way for MS to slip into our inter-sanctum.<

Quoting:In 2003, Microsoft executives sat down to assess what the company should do with all those patents. There were three choices. First, it could do nothing, effectively donating them to the development community. Obviously that "wasn't very attractive in terms of our shareholders," Smith says.

Alternatively, it could start suing other companies to stop them from using its patents. That was a nonstarter too, Smith says: "It was going to get in the way of everything we were trying to accomplish in terms of [improving] our connections with other companies, the promotion of interoperability, the desires of customers."

So Microsoft took the third choice, which was to begin licensing its patents to other companies in exchange for either royalties or access to their patents (a "cross-licensing" deal). In December 2003, Microsoft's new licensing unit opened for business, and soon the company had signed cross-licensing pacts with such tech firms as Sun, Toshiba, SAP and Siemens.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/...
Everyone should have held out. That would have left MS high and dry.
The question is, just who are they going to take to court if they go that route?

Because whoever they pick, its going to be a losing fight for them especially if it balloons into a supreme court patent case about patents.

They would have more than just the FOSS community fighting them that's for sure.

For example, I'll bet that the drug companies would not want any case that MS takes to court to end up causing changes to the patent system. I know there are many other companies that feel the same way.

I think that someone, as in EVERYONE is going to ask about those 200 or so patents that they are talking about...I would LOVE to see that list.

Don't you think they knew demands would be made to produce the code? If Seales was patently ignored (sorry, I should be pun-ished fr that...) with his demand for MS to put up or shut up, you know what their reaction will be to "The Community" outrage.

I think MS has known something we have refused to acknowledge and are unable to repair. Unless someone or some group steps forward and at least temporarily organizes the Linux community long enough to repel this attack... at least build the illusion of cohesiveness, we are as weak and ineffective as kittens.
I think we have both frequently and quite readily acknowledged that we depend on corporate sponsorship. Short of the Software Freedom Law Center, there isn't much our community has done to actually unify as a cohesive collective to protect ourselves.
and this is not meant as a derogatory remark...I state so ahead of time...

I think the recent flap over the debian leadership structure has shown us just how effective "leadership by consensus isn't. People thought that shuttleworth was going to be the "strong hand" to step in and get things organized. However, all he did was add another layer of complexity to an already unorganized situation.

The problem is largely, and I think we have all seen this lately...When someone decides to "Just Do It", there will be a vocal segment of the community to challenge their right to do so and retro-impose all sorts of necessary credentials for said person to fill the roll. I honestly do apologize. I do see solutions, but they are going to be as well received as a flu shot...or a...

never mind,

The horse, it's dead Jim.

waahhh! help us make money.

25 earlier comments in the full thread.

> Brits are stuck with a sense of humour.

Forgive them, it's one of the few things they have left...
< The Brits are stuck with a sense of humour.

I'm sure I could come up with something using colour, but I don't think I will.
> I'm sure I could come up with something using colour, but I don't think I will.

Discretion, valor, all that jazz, eh?
Why isn't it spelled v-a-l-o-u-r? Or is it?
Quoting:ou denizens of Oz have no sense of humor,


I have absolutely no sense of humor
>h-u-m-o-u-r

Where you from agin, bubba?
San Francisco

but

I currently live in Indiana

*weeps openly*
C'mon Dino! S-F-N = San Francisco Native
Quoting:S-F-N = San Francisco Native


Correctamundo!
hmmm.

Well, they might have humour there. It's not like America.
"It's not like America."

Thank goodness for that. The name should be changed from "America" to "The Republic of Cotton Mather."
Quoting:Thank goodness for that. The name should be changed from "America" to "The Republic of Cotton Mather."
Testify, sister.
>America" to "The Republic of Cotton Mather."

I have to admit, the Democrats are getting a little goofy with their witch hunts.
Maybe all those TOS violations are giving them itchy trigger fingers,.
>Maybe all those TOS violations are giving them itchy trigger fingers,.

Nah. They're just naturally itchy.
TC - aw helios, you sweet-talker! But only if I get my own personal bathroom. I hate bathroom conflicts. :)

That's not going to be an issue. You know when I go out with the dogs in the back yard in the mornings to drink my coffee? Well I am REALLY GOING out with the dogs...

I am a man and the world is my.....

Oyster Rolex

;-)

h
Getting back more to the subject, Scott_Ruecker wrote above:
Quoting:Look at their [Microsoft's] attempt to supposedly buy Yahoo, they have nothing of their own that they know is better than anyone else's. So they use what they have, money, to get what they want.
Keen point; taken together with FUD and IP-Patent deals like this, attempting to buyout yahoo!could be yet another signs of internal implosion within the great M$ corporation.
Quoting:Look at their [Microsoft's] attempt to supposedly buy Yahoo, they have nothing of their own that they know is better than anyone else's. So they use what they have, money, to get what they want.


Well, they failed. Apparently Yahoo was a tad too expensive for Microsoft. Somewhere around $150 billion IIRC.
That combined with the (now contested) 150 billion they had to pay ATT, that should leave them pretty much broke...

One could only hope.

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