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Ubuntu Christian Edition Review
A Need That Has Finally Been Met. Regardless of your religious feelings with a Linux distribution, the fact is that the inclusion of parental controls (thanks to integrating Dans Guardian features) will mean that Linux using parents everywhere will give Ubuntu CE a very serious look. |
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Comments (15)
Not really a "review"
He makes a couple good points, but there's nothing review like in the article.
A summary would pretty much be:
"It includes parental controls. Why don't other home-focused distros?"
That's pretty much all he says.
Maybe he should switch from Ubuntu CE to Win CE; it does a more thoroughgoing job of restricting choices and filtering out knowledge deemed 'inappropriate' by its configurers.
Me, I talk to my kids. I watch over their shoulders sometimes, and monitor what moves across my network, and tell them I'm doing it, and why, so they understand and expect it. Sometimes I drop into their IRC channels with them to shoot the breeze. If I see something I don't like, we talk about it, and I tell them why I'm not happy with it; they either present their justifications (I'm not immune to error, such as proceeding on inadequate information, and they know that) or accept my ruling. I've only had to block sites at the firewall a few times. It's all part of my job as their parent and initial role-model. For us, MEPIS and Slackware, our current distros, are adequately family-oriented and home-focused.
Me, I talk to my kids. I watch over their shoulders sometimes, and monitor what moves across my network, and tell them I'm doing it, and why, so they understand and expect it. Sometimes I drop into their IRC channels with them to shoot the breeze. If I see something I don't like, we talk about it, and I tell them why I'm not happy with it; they either present their justifications (I'm not immune to error, such as proceeding on inadequate information, and they know that) or accept my ruling. I've only had to block sites at the firewall a few times. It's all part of my job as their parent and initial role-model. For us, MEPIS and Slackware, our current distros, are adequately family-oriented and home-focused.
cr: That's great!
cr pretty well has it nailed. I'd go a step farther.
Except for very young children, the addition of parental blocking software does very little other than to encourage their hacking abilities, which can become quite formidable, especially with a child that is conversant in Linux. The only real way to 'censor' is to talk with the child, and, be aware and involved.
Parenting is the 'only' solution... Well, other than eliminating every computer in the house, and we all know how that would go over... ;-)
Except for very young children, the addition of parental blocking software does very little other than to encourage their hacking abilities, which can become quite formidable, especially with a child that is conversant in Linux. The only real way to 'censor' is to talk with the child, and, be aware and involved.
Parenting is the 'only' solution... Well, other than eliminating every computer in the house, and we all know how that would go over... ;-)
jimf -
CR has it half-nailed.
Parenting is the 'only' solution? Well, duh.
When I was a kid, my mother didn't let me buy pornography. She didn't let me buy racist records. She didn't let me get my hands on a number of things. Most parents were the same way, with some variation in the makeup of the lists.
Parental controls are woefully inadequate, but are an internet version of that parenting principle. They also recognize that parents get nearly no support in trying to raise their kids these days.
And...let us not forget single parents, who tend to be overworked and overtired. I suppose you could take a "shame on them" position for being in that position. Tools that help parents to do their jobs better are good.
CR has it half-nailed.
Parenting is the 'only' solution? Well, duh.
When I was a kid, my mother didn't let me buy pornography. She didn't let me buy racist records. She didn't let me get my hands on a number of things. Most parents were the same way, with some variation in the makeup of the lists.
Parental controls are woefully inadequate, but are an internet version of that parenting principle. They also recognize that parents get nearly no support in trying to raise their kids these days.
And...let us not forget single parents, who tend to be overworked and overtired. I suppose you could take a "shame on them" position for being in that position. Tools that help parents to do their jobs better are good.
> Tools that help parents to do their jobs better are good.Tools that help parents to do their jobs better are good.
Well, duh... If they work, and if they aren't being used as panaceas, sure.
Well, duh... If they work, and if they aren't being used as panaceas, sure.
jimf -
I get the feeling we actually agree pretty closely on this matter. Time to turn my attention to important matters...
DA BEARS!
I get the feeling we actually agree pretty closely on this matter. Time to turn my attention to important matters...
DA BEARS!
jimf wrote: "Except for very young children, the addition of parental blocking software does very little other than to encourage their hacking abilities, which can become quite formidable, especially with a child that is conversant in Linux."
Excellent! great idea! Every parent _please_ install Ubuntu CE on your kids computers, now! That way we will have built ourselves an army of young satanist GNU/Linux hackers in a couple of years and the world will be a much better place *ggg*
Excellent! great idea! Every parent _please_ install Ubuntu CE on your kids computers, now! That way we will have built ourselves an army of young satanist GNU/Linux hackers in a couple of years and the world will be a much better place *ggg*
> That way we will have built ourselves an army of young satanist GNU/Linux hackers in a couple of years and the world will be a much better place *ggg*
More likely that you'll soon have a 'young hackers for Jesus' in your neighborhood soon. Whether that's a good or a bad thing, I'll leave for others to judge.
More likely that you'll soon have a 'young hackers for Jesus' in your neighborhood soon. Whether that's a good or a bad thing, I'll leave for others to judge.
jimf -
> 'young hackers for Jesus'
Now here's the funny thing...
This is called the "Christian" edition, but my Hindu and Muslim friends are even more protective of what their children see and do than my Christian friends. Maybe it could be re-packaged as the concerned parents edition.
> 'young hackers for Jesus'
Now here's the funny thing...
This is called the "Christian" edition, but my Hindu and Muslim friends are even more protective of what their children see and do than my Christian friends. Maybe it could be re-packaged as the concerned parents edition.
> my Hindu and Muslim friends are even more protective of what their children see and do than my Christian friends.
There you give the best reason for the whole parental control thing to be released as a package, and not a religious oriented Distro.
There you give the best reason for the whole parental control thing to be released as a package, and not a religious oriented Distro.
well now jimf, you know how protective some folks are of their particular chosen religions. Branding is everything. If the concept takes off, I foresee clones of the exact same "parental assistance" distribution released under different labels. Just like RHEL and CentOS and Pie Box and Lineox...
> I foresee clones of the exact same "parental assistance" distribution released under different labels. Just like RHEL and CentOS and Pie Box and Lineox...
Oh, I agree :D
Oh, I agree :D
apt-get install blinders? :)
This is not a 'review'
This article title is misleading - it doesnt review this version of ubuntu at all - but instead discusses a little bit dans gaurdian proxy.
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