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Problem installing/running Ubuntu/Mint on Toshiba notebook
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acpi issue?
a quick google came up with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1568775
Thanks, I should have followed the advice I gave him, but then again, he should have followed my advice. Obviously he likes holding hands with me.
Ubuntu/Mint on Toshiba notebook
Last week I installed Mint 10.10 on a AMD Toshiba A215 S5837 with Vista. I had minor problems with the graphics resolution on boot up. I did find that on installing it, It took a while to initialized the hardware, I think now that it was the graphics chip. that caused the problem. when it boots up now the mint splash screen moves over to the right, other than that everything works fine and dandy
I hope he never has to reinstall windows 7. if installing Vista is anything to go by, It took 7 minutes to initialize and format the hard drive, 38 minutes to copying vista files, 19 minutes to recover files, 9 minutes for CRC file, 30 minutes for final configuration. 8 minutes to setup user account, 25 minutes to remove crap ware, Office 2007. Windows Activation, Norton 360, Norton Activation, Quick Books, then 46 minutes to defrag the system. Windows vista still used 17.5 gig of disk space, and actual disk space used was 19.3 gig
After all that I installed Mint 10.10. in under 1 hour
Just a thought. Did the person used the live disk to see if everything worked before he attempted to install it? Like I said I had no problems running Mint 10.10 on this AMD Toshiba A215 S5837 with Vista.dual booting
I hope he never has to reinstall windows 7. if installing Vista is anything to go by, It took 7 minutes to initialize and format the hard drive, 38 minutes to copying vista files, 19 minutes to recover files, 9 minutes for CRC file, 30 minutes for final configuration. 8 minutes to setup user account, 25 minutes to remove crap ware, Office 2007. Windows Activation, Norton 360, Norton Activation, Quick Books, then 46 minutes to defrag the system. Windows vista still used 17.5 gig of disk space, and actual disk space used was 19.3 gig
After all that I installed Mint 10.10. in under 1 hour
Just a thought. Did the person used the live disk to see if everything worked before he attempted to install it? Like I said I had no problems running Mint 10.10 on this AMD Toshiba A215 S5837 with Vista.dual booting
Installing Windows 7 is every bit as onerous as installing any other version of Windows. I done it, I was not amused. The biggest problem, is as always, the fact that after installing Windows, there's nothing of any use there, and that doesn't include the OS, so it takes hours to get the machine to a point where you can do anything useful.
i cannot install ubuntu or any linux
i cannot install ubuntu or any other linux on my primary desktop since they made the switch to nouveau.... i have a nvidia geforce 8400gs and when i boot to linux the first thing i see is the last windows desktop on the same machine but screw up(with a reboot) and after a fresh turn on, no reebot, after plymouth, the image is black...
Lolren,
Can you get to a console (ctl-alt-F1)?
If so, then use the package management to remove the nouveau packages. That won't remove the kernel driver, which requires blacklisting.
The proprietary Nvidia driver installer will create a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist entry for nouveau. I'm not on my Nvidia-powered machine to check at the moment.
I recently had to drop nouveau when I discovered that Google Earth errors with it.
Can you get to a console (ctl-alt-F1)?
If so, then use the package management to remove the nouveau packages. That won't remove the kernel driver, which requires blacklisting.
The proprietary Nvidia driver installer will create a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist entry for nouveau. I'm not on my Nvidia-powered machine to check at the moment.
I recently had to drop nouveau when I discovered that Google Earth errors with it.
I have done multiple NVidia installs the first thing i do is set up X to use the Vesa driver how you do this will depend on your distro.
Secondly if your distro already has the Nvidia propriatery drivers in it use your distro's package manager to install them otherwise goto Nvidia and download from there, you will have to follow NVidia install instructions from this point the Nvidia drivers have to be installed from the console without X running or they did the last time i did it a few months ago.
As to why folks like redhat ship nouveau drivers when they dont work and are unfinished with the newer NVidia cards is just dumb but dont bother trying to tell them that you will hit a brick wall, they should just ship with the vesa driver used as default instead and leave it up to user to install the proprietary driver at least that way the system would at least be working to a much greater extent after installation.
The other way is to use a Linux distro that comes with the nvidia drivers as part of their software repository such as PCLinuxOS when you first install PCLinuxOS it defaults to the vesa driver then you just click the configure your computer icon goto hardware section and select configure graphics select you graphics card and it will tell you that a proprietary driver is available and would you like to use it just click yes and it will download and install it.
PCLinuxOS is one of the few that defaults to VESA ie the right way to do things then makes it easy to get the proprietary one.
Note: I have no connections to PCLinuxOS other than being a user, i just have a great appreciation of distros that think carefully about the users installation experience .
Secondly if your distro already has the Nvidia propriatery drivers in it use your distro's package manager to install them otherwise goto Nvidia and download from there, you will have to follow NVidia install instructions from this point the Nvidia drivers have to be installed from the console without X running or they did the last time i did it a few months ago.
As to why folks like redhat ship nouveau drivers when they dont work and are unfinished with the newer NVidia cards is just dumb but dont bother trying to tell them that you will hit a brick wall, they should just ship with the vesa driver used as default instead and leave it up to user to install the proprietary driver at least that way the system would at least be working to a much greater extent after installation.
The other way is to use a Linux distro that comes with the nvidia drivers as part of their software repository such as PCLinuxOS when you first install PCLinuxOS it defaults to the vesa driver then you just click the configure your computer icon goto hardware section and select configure graphics select you graphics card and it will tell you that a proprietary driver is available and would you like to use it just click yes and it will download and install it.
PCLinuxOS is one of the few that defaults to VESA ie the right way to do things then makes it easy to get the proprietary one.
Note: I have no connections to PCLinuxOS other than being a user, i just have a great appreciation of distros that think carefully about the users installation experience .
if they thought about it so highly the drivers would be on the disc.
Slackware also defaults to VESA.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
> Just sayin'.
I was refraining from pointing out the obvious, but since gus3 insisted. :)
Yes, Slackware defaults to the VESA driver. You can then install NVidia's drivers if you wish, or the nouveau or nv driver if you prefer. Sometimes using the most universal defaults and leaving configuration to the user is a good thing.
I was refraining from pointing out the obvious, but since gus3 insisted. :)
Yes, Slackware defaults to the VESA driver. You can then install NVidia's drivers if you wish, or the nouveau or nv driver if you prefer. Sometimes using the most universal defaults and leaving configuration to the user is a good thing.
Quoting:You can then install NVidia's drivers if you wish, or the nouveau or nv driver if you prefer.Or Intel, or ATI, or Cirrus... although they probably won't work with nVidia chips...
> although they probably won't work with nVidia chips...
Picky picky.
Picky picky.
@azerthoth
They cannot put them on disk due to license issues , a license is required from nvidia to ship their drivers, who's gonna pay for it on a free distro?
Koriel, I think I'd read that before parroting it. Let me help with that.
Quoting:2. GRANT OF LICENSE
2.1 Rights and Limitations of Grant. NVIDIA hereby grants Customer the following non-exclusive, non-transferable right to use the SOFTWARE, with the following limitations:
2.1.1 Rights. Customer may install and use one copy of the SOFTWARE on a single computer, and except for making one back-up copy of the Software, may not otherwise copy the SOFTWARE. This LICENSE of SOFTWARE may not be shared or used concurrently on different computers.
2.1.2 Linux Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux operating system may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files).
2.1.3 Limitations.
No Reverse Engineering. Customer may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the SOFTWARE, nor attempt in any other manner to obtain the source code.
No Separation of Components. The SOFTWARE is licensed as a single product. Its component parts may not be separated for use on more than one computer, nor otherwise used separately from the other parts.
No Rental. Customer may not rent or lease the SOFTWARE to someone else.
I also became annoyed at the many distro's not using VESA as default. Changing screen configuration is something even Windows gets right:
You ask the user "do you want to keep this settings?", and if the user doesn't click Yes within 30 sec, you assume the user cannot see the prompt box and fall back to another default option.
Why that kind of 'test' is not in Fedora, Ubuntu etc. is still a riddle to me. They could fire up Nouveau, ask the user if display settings are OK, if so, keep Nouveau, if not, switch to VESA.
You ask the user "do you want to keep this settings?", and if the user doesn't click Yes within 30 sec, you assume the user cannot see the prompt box and fall back to another default option.
Why that kind of 'test' is not in Fedora, Ubuntu etc. is still a riddle to me. They could fire up Nouveau, ask the user if display settings are OK, if so, keep Nouveau, if not, switch to VESA.
Video problem
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/
Try adding nomodeset to the boot line in Grub. [url=https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/#Working around bugs in the new kernel video architecture]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/#Working arou...[/url]
Try adding nomodeset to the boot line in Grub. [url=https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/#Working around bugs in the new kernel video architecture]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes/#Working arou...[/url]
Also found:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1520618
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Mint on Toshiba Notebook
My wife has a Toshiba Satellite L455D-55976 running on an AMD Sempron Single Core chip with 2GB RAM. It's a 32 bit. I downloaded and installed Mint 10 rc1 with no problems. You may have a bad download, or as I call it bad burn. II tested the disc before the install. It ran fine so I installed it with no difficulties. Everything ran fine out of the box in spite of it running on the back side of Windows 7 Home Premium Edition. It took 30 minutes to install and about 10 to update with no extra packages added. I have had similar issues with other versions of Linux, mainly Debian, where I have gotten bad burns. So if it was I, and he likes that particular version of Linux I would try to download and burn again.
I used to have bad burns a lot.
Then I learned to be "not" in a hurry and burned at slow speed
No bad burns anymore
If your laptop can boot from USB its easier to just install from USB. I no longer use my optical drive to install operating systems, even if I have to install Windows.
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net
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