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LXer Linux News; By Sander Marechal ('s-Hertogenbosch, The Netherlands)
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LXer Feature: 19-Jul-2007

A few days ago Rob Enderle proclaimed that Open Source and Linux are losing momentum, without any evidence to back this up and despite that IDC and Gartner are saying the exact opposite. The FOSS community responded with rebuttals after which Rob posted a follow-up in which he makes some particularly nasty accusations. However, trying to follow Rob's logic in the original article quickly showed that it was not about a loss in momentum at all. That was just a framework on which to hang a different tale, one that gives us some insight in how he sees the world of software development.

Normally I try to avoid Rob Enderle's stories. The one-man analyst group is more often wrong than right, his analyses incoherent and filled with off-base assumptions. His latest few pieces are downright insulting but also offer us an insight into his reasoning.



It started a few days ago when Rob proclaimed that Open Source and Linux are losing momentum, without any evidence to back this up and despite that IDC and Gartner are saying the exact opposite. But that matters little, as even Rob himself hardly references this subject in his article. It's only a framework on which to hang a different—and often debunked—tale: Free Software is communist. Yup, here we go again.



For those who have tried and failed to follow the train of thought in the article, it goes a bit like this: Richard Stallman personally cares little for material wealth, so RMS's main objective must be to strip other people of their wealth as well, or to prevent other people of ever becoming wealthy. The Free Software Foundation and the GPL were created with the specific, unwritten goal of making that happen.



The means: make software free-as-in-beer so companies would be unwilling to pay for it anymore. Companies took the bait because Microsoft is not liked very well, being a monopolist and all. Now that they are accustomed to getting everything for free, they stopped paying large amounts of money for software and the days of IT millionaires are over. The entire software industry is scarping to get by and the richest man on the planet is a foreigner, and he's not even in software. How dare he!



Or shorter: Richard Stallman sent your job to India and he was planning it all along.



And then he acts surprised if the people he attacks react and rebut his piece. In his follow-up called “Decline of Open Source Follow-Up: FUD Attack?” he likens the community to religious fanatics, accuses us of intimidation and trying to limit free speech. How original.



Besides Gartner and IDC telling us that FOSS is booming instead of declining, Rob gets many other facts wrong. First off, FOSS does not have a political agenda, let alone that it be anti-Microsoft. When FOSS is attacked, we counter—sometimes with vitriol—but for the most part FOSS just does what it does best: create great software. And that's the reason why Microsoft is loosing ground. It is simply being out-engineered, out-innovated and it is bleeding developers.



FOSS is also not the reason that jobs are being sent to India. It's not just software development that is sent to cheap countries but all kinds of jobs. India (and much of the far east) is developing itself. They did not have the technology or knowledge to do our jobs 10 years ago but they do now. There is no "Free Textile Foundation" that is commoditizing the market and sending clothing fabrication jobs to India. This argument could only hold water if it was FOSS that boosted development of the east at such a rapid pace, but it didn't even do that. The bulk of the east runs on (pirated) Microsoft software. In that vein you might as well blame Bill Gates' lax anti-piracy policy for sending your job to India.



Rob's argument that there is a developer shortage also holds no water, The proof he links to is actually talking about developers on a global scale and talks about a potential situation where the need for computer code outgrows the supply of new developers worldwide. Jobs moving from the U.S. to India isn't a factor because it does not change the global supply of developers. It merely shuffles them around. In such a scenario FOSS is the solution and not the cause, because FOSS lets you develop faster, reuse more and prevents reinventing the wheel a thousand times over. With a FOSS development model we can produce more code with the same amount of programmers and thus fulfill the need for new code.



Programmers will always get paid. Companies always have a need for code that is not interesting enough for a FOSS hobbyist to create in his free time for geek points. Take me for example. I get paid to write FOSS and no, I am not some kind of hot shot programmer working on a sexy FOSS application that got snatched up by a VC-funded start-up. I build business software for a company that is not in the software business. My company releases it under an open source license simply because there is no reason not to release it.



Reading through the lines of Rob's analysis and reasoning I get the impression he is suffering from tunnel vision, especially with regard to FOSS. He is blind to the 80%-85% of software developers that are not employed by software development companies. He is also focusing far too much on the large U.S. software companies, Microsoft in particular. There is nothing wrong with giving advice targeted at the large U.S. companies, but in his opening sentence Rob admits that this is also where he gets his information from in the first place. This tunnel vision has left him with a very distorted view of how the world of software development works; A bleak picture in which Richard Stallman is trying to send your job to India.



No wonder his analyses are off-base.

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Comments (64)

OK, Rob, I take back my assertion that you are smart.

19 earlier comments in the full thread.

>Its that she purposefully spreads such a divisive view of what she thinks is right and wrong that makes me not like her.

That's completely understandable. I can only take so much of her myself. But that's very different from claiming that her books have no content.
Ok, no content for me would(edit) be a more accurate descriptor.

>Ok, no content for me wolf be a more accurate descriptor.

I can buy that. After all, her books are targeted exclusively to intelligent, open-minded, thoughtful and well-read types.

Like me!
/me dies from retching

Thanks a lot, dino, just when I was having fun!
Quoting:her books are targeted exclusively to intelligent, open-minded, thoughtful and well-read types.

Like me!


dino you do yourself a disservice.

>dino you do yourself a disservice.

Incredible humility prevents me from presenting the true magnitude of my magnificence.
> Its that she purposefully spreads such a divisive view of what she thinks is right and wrong that makes me not like her.

Well, yes. But then she's writing for a specific market, and her message is tailored for that market. And it's not like the folks she's taking on are any better. Compare her books to those of Michael Moore, for example. I think you'll find that Coulter's books have more actual content, more factual information backing her positions, and fewer flat out lies and misrepresentations. Note: I didn't say none, merely fewer :). Now, I will admit that's somewhat like saying frozen leftovers are better than day old garbage, but...
> Incredible humility prevents me from presenting the true magnitude of my magnificence.

For which we are all profoundly grateful, Dino. I'm not sure our fragile egos could take it. :)
jdixon, you're right that Michael Moore plays rather fast and loose with the facts, and re-arranges events to tell a better story. What I like about his work is, to paraphrase something he said recently, is why is he the only one asking the questions he asks? He's a high-school dropout with a camera- why the profound silence among all the "real" journalists and reporters on the tough issues? Instead, they're all maintaining craven silences on the important issues and wasting their lives chasing celebrities in and out of rehab.
> What I like about his work is, to paraphrase something he said recently, is why is he the only one asking the questions he asks?

I don't mind the questions he asks TC, but when his only solution to all problems involves the government, I lose interest.
Quoting:but when his only solution to all problems involves the government, I lose interest.


jdixson.

I don't think he is advocating that, he is blaming the government for not watching out for the well fare of the people in areas where the government supposed to.

Health care is a one of them. The private sector is out to make money and that is all what they care about. We have a government Post Office, and it is run pretty good, is it more important to people than health care? We have Medicaid or whatever it is called, why can't that be expended to all?

We have a government controlled school system, how come it is that bad and in other countries have superior curriculum than ours?

Moore is not educated but he is more passionate about the issues a lot more than anyone else we know.

> ...he is blaming the government for not watching out for the well fare of the people in areas where the government supposed to.

> Health care is a one of them.

Not under our constitution. Even the broadest interpretation of "the general welfare" doesn't encompass a national health care system.

> We have a government Post Office, and it is run pretty good...

You've obviously dealt with a different Post Office than I have.

> We have a government controlled school system, how come it is that bad and in other countries have superior curriculum than ours?

Our government controlled school system is terrible. When there was no government control, it was the envy of the world. I'd shut down the public school system tomorrow if I could.

Quoting Reagan, and others before him: "Government isn't the solution, government is the problem".

This is obviously going to lead to a discussion outside the TOS, so we'd best drop it at this point. I'll let you have the last word if you want.
>We have a government Post Office, and it is run pretty good, is it more important to people than health care?

Not so much important as it is explicitly provided for in the constitution. By the way, the Postal Service is an odd duck. It is not a government agency per se, but a corporation.

>We have Medicaid or whatever it is called, why can't that be expended to all?

You don't want that any more than you want Medicare (which my mother is on and I'm getting uncomfortably close to).

Total government control in health care tends not to work well anywhere, notwithstanding all the crap about the wonders of Cuba. France, whose health care is considered among the world's best, employs a hybrid public-private model. I think Japan does the same.

We'd go a long way if a) We trained doctors differently. In particular, remove pharmaceutical companies completely from continuing medical education b) Outlawed advertising of prescription drugs. This goes against my libertarian leanings in a big way, but would go a long way towards dropping the price of health care by removing pressure on those differently trained doctors to prescribe the newest drugs instead of the most effective ones. c) Came up with some reasonable answer to the malpractice problem, perhaps something along the lines of Workers Comp. This pains me as a former lawyer, but the impact on health care costs is many times what some would have you believe, d) Make available the information needed to make informed choices. It's really really hard to find out death rates for surgeries, surgeons, hospitals, etc, or the expected statistical outcome of getting a test vs not getting it, etc. e) Eliminate cherry picking by insurance companies. It might be reasonable to modify this somewhat by life choices -- smoking, weighing three tons (like me!), etc, but, by and large, we don't have control over many of the things that can lay us low. It's reasonable to spread the risk over everyone.
No need to have the last world, you are right, let's drop it. We obviously look at these issues from different perspectives.

But we do have problems and they need to be solved. So far the government is the only entity who can do something about them because the people are becoming fragmented, disorganized, worrisome, naive, too trusting and helpless in front of greedy big corp.

Hybrid public /private is how Canada did it. The provider sector remained private, they nationalized the insurance.

Its kind of like one big government HMO paying the bills.

Doctors and hospitals are still private, but prices are pre-set.

England Nationalized both sides. Private providers still exist for medical procedures that are not mandatory, like elective plastic surgery and such.

The US will have to do something. The high cost of health care is hurting small and mid size businesses.

I'm hoping the private sector will come up with a solution, but so far they have only increased costs and reduced benefits.

(I shouldn't complain too loudly, half my clients over the last decade have been health insurance companies.)
> The US will have to do something. The high cost of health care is hurting small and mid size businesses.

Well, that's a simple supply vs. demand problem. You have to increase the supply of health care. :)

While that's a flippant answer, that actually is most of the problem. The demand for heath care services is outstripping our ability to provide them. The fact that the latest treatments always seem to involve heavily researched drugs and high tech devices isn't helping things any. We need far more doctors, nurses, etc. than we have and a greater emphasis on low cost treatment methods.
Quoting:Hybrid public /private is how Canada did it. The provider sector remained private, they nationalized the insurance.
Heh. I know a young man that went to Canada to intern. The first thing the nurses told him was, "If you need medical care, go back to the US."
Now that everyone has had their last words in, shall we get back on the topic of dino's humbling magnificence?
>shall we get back on the topic of dino's humbling magnificence?

In all humility, it's not necessary. Some things shine so brightly as to overwhelm mere mortal understanding. Words do not suffice.
Good thing I keep my hip waders handy.

You mean SCO *won't* crush us all any day now?!?!?

Enderle just plain hates Linux and anything remotely related to it. Linux-users actually called him on it when he started in on the "Linux is evil communism" nonsense and now he's desperate to get back at FOSS. Unfortunately for him, all he has is name-calling (evil communist thieves!) and shilling for FOSS' opposition - primarily Microsoft, which still has deep enough pockets to keep some money flowing his way.

I suspect he just figures he'll keep throwing out the "Evil Linux Communist Thieves are DOOMED!" stories, hoping some random event will make him seem correct for a while one of these days.
Based on some information that came out during the early days of the SCO litigation, the real story seems to be that Enderle hates IBM because he believes they mistreated him many years ago and he loves Microsoft because they made it possible for him to recover from whatever misfortunes he suffered as a result of the IBM episode. So he has been vigorously attacking FOSS ever since IBM began supporting it, and he hasn't cared whether he had any facts or logic to support his claims. Fortunately, I don't think very many people take him seriously anymore.
Linux is about as communist as "We The People"

Linux is Free! Free as in Free Enterprise and Free Press.

Linux is Open. Open as in Open Market.

On the other hand in Windows land...

Vista has been released and we see the fulfillment of the Glorious five year plan brought to bear. All troubles are solved by upgrading to the one solution provided by the minds of the superior leadership of the one true source for solutions to your IT needs. Contemplating the use of another solution is strictly forbidden.

The old five year plan is dead! Long live the Vista, the new five year plan.

;)
Yeah Long live Comrade "Leonid Brezhnev" Gates and the Great Vistas of the Future!
Quoting:the real story seems to be that Enderle hates IBM because he believes they mistreated him many years ago and he loves Microsoft because they made it possible for him to recover from whatever misfortunes he suffered as a result of the IBM episode.


Interesting. Got any links to back that up? I'd love to do some more reading on that (yes, I'm a masochist :-)
@number6x: don't forget that in the popular elections[1] the Red-Mond Party got 97.36% of votes, even better than last time!

[1] the fine print: commissioned by MS

The Pen is mightier than the FUD

"Besides Gartner and IDC telling us that FOSS is booming instead of declining, Rob gets many other facts wrong."

Is this true? It was true around 2004, but IDC/Gartner have quit releasing such news lately. Web stats show a flat line for Linux, too. I am not sure what is wrong with the stats but they seem contrary to what I have personally observed, constantly increasing activity in GNU/Linux.

When I ask Google for hits on -IDC linux- I get stuff from 2004 that is encouraging. Have they made a deal with M$? Gartner gives dismal predictions from 2005.

w3schools stats are around 3% and I believe Linux on the desktop passed 3% years ago. see http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp I would expect Linux to be more than 5% of the desktop seats by now.

This is frustrating when trying to reply to MS-fanbois/trolls on several sites and it gives Enderle room to wiggle. Linux is winning on all fronts all battles except the FUD which seems to spring up from every hole in the Earth.
Gartner 2007: http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?id=509681
Quoting:Hype Cycle for Linux, 2007. The Linux operating system is moving into what we classify as its third generation (earlier versions were basic infrastructure and midtier Web/applications) to play a major server role in data centers. Its progress in the PC sector will continue.


IDC December 2006 http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/originalContent/...
Quoting:As part of a list of predictions for 2007, research firm IDC said Microsoft's client operating system anti-piracy efforts will backfire in 2007. Instead of stamping out software piracy, the campaign will drive customers toward a Linux desktop, said the Framingham, Mass.-based research firm.


So far, it's come true :-)

IDC March 2007 The Linux desktop market is growing
Quoting:Linux still goes into only a tiny proportion of the desktop and laptop PCs sold. But in a recent report, market researcher IDC said licenses of both free and purchased versions of Linux software going into PCs world-wide rose 20.8% in 2006 over the previous year and forecast that licenses will increase 30% this year over last. That compares with 10.5% growth in 2004, according to IDC.
We have had "growth" like that for years but the market share is still in the range 1-3% according to web stats. What's with that? With this kind of growth we should have Linux on 6% or more of desktops. Maybe that is a comment on web stats.

I guess I will have to teach for a few more years to boost the numbers...
The numbers are bogus. None of the Famous Analysts even acknowledge the large numbers of installations from downloads or re-purposed windozes and Mac PCs, nor counting the numbers of purchased commercial Linuxes that are installed by the users, and I doubt they're trying very hard to count the numbers of Linux preinstalls either.
Quoting:The numbers are bogus


I've believed that to be the case for some time now. A quick and dirty calculation, based on the number of installers I've done that I doubt get counted by anyone, tells me that the stats are likely 5 to 10 times higher than the analysts would state.
Quoting:w3schools stats are around 3% and I believe Linux on the desktop passed 3% years ago.


w3schools stats are flawed for this comparison. Web design and web development is dominated by Windows because sites must always be checked out to work with IE (IEs4Linux works, sorta, but IE7 is a problem). Also, photoshop and dreamweaver are a web designers most used tools. Neither has a Linux version and here Wine cannot help. So there's a disproportionate amount of Windows users on w3schools.

It's very hard to find a good site to look at it's webstats. I think that Google is one of the few that would not have disproportionate stats, but the don't show their stats unfortunately.
Sander_Marechal wrote:"Web design and web development is dominated by Windows because sites must always be checked out to work with IE (IEs4Linux works, sorta, but IE7 is a problem)."

Thanks, I did not realize that. My world is Linuxian where folks use that site as a standard. I thought everyone did.

I wonder if Linus would go for a once-a-year pinger in the kernel to phone home and be counted?
> I wonder if Linus would go for a once-a-year pinger in the kernel to phone home and be counted?

Almost certainly not. And even if he did, that won't help. Most home users (whether dialup, cable, or DSL) have dynamic IP addresses.
Quoting:I wonder if Linus would go for a once-a-year pinger in the kernel to phone home and be counted?


It doesn't have to be in the kernel and it could be a user initiated open source tool.

Quoting:that won't help. Most home users (whether dialup, cable, or DSL) have dynamic IP addresses.


True, but the MAC address would be pretty accurate although not perfect.



Probably is most of us actually bothered to register our install with the distributor, there would be a better set of stats.
While not a big fan of ANY call home for any reason the use of dynamic IP would have zero effect on the ability to do so. The MAC address doesnt translate past the gateway/router/modem so is absolutely useless unless it is polled and encapsulated in the call home message.

Not to mention several distro's already default ship with a call home function, Debian and Ubuntu I know for certain. It can easily be disabled and some do so without even realizing that they have. The biggest drawbacks to the idea would be:

A: Convincing every single distribution out there that it was in their users best interest to violate their privacy even this much then convincing the users themselves to upgrade so that the patch was there.

B: Kernel level, convincing every single user and business to upgrade their kernel or to push the individual distributions to release a new kernel. Using Debian as an example that could take as much as 3 years.
Quoting:Not to mention several distro's already default ship with a call home function, Debian and Ubuntu I know for certain.


You're talking about popcorn. It tracks what packages you have installed and reports that periodically to a central server. Debian an Ubuntu ask at install time if you want to install popcorn or not. IIRC the default is "no".
Actually I have never been asked, even in the cases with Debian where I have done a debootstrap install.
Quoting:The MAC address doesnt translate past the gateway/router/modem so is absolutely useless unless it is polled and encapsulated in the call home message.


My fault, I didn't make it clear enough and you didn't grasp my note "user initiated open source tool". I wasn't talking about sniffing or poking. I was talking about a tool, with user consent, that collects and send, what ever necessary information, to a central repository for statistical purposes only. Totally anonymous.

A standard tool that can be and could be adopted by all distros.

The idea of getting fairly accurate stats about FOSS usage need to and will happen sooner or later.

Repositories do have good information about what is being downloaded, whether they have any other information that is being downloaded without users knowing about it! I can't say. In any case, does it matter to users if hardware information was downloaded along without any, or association with user personal information? I don't think so.

I believe this scenario is appropriate and doesn't not infringe on any privacy.

A telling blunder by Mr. Enderle

Mr. Enderle tries to position himself has being an authority on the business of technology, but makes a singularly bizarre statement: "However, I also realize that a monopoly is the most efficient business model and the market will almost always gravitate towards it." The link he himself provides (http://ingrimayne.com/econ/Monopoly/Overview15mi.html) says just the opposite: "Monopoly is inefficient because it prevents an economy from producing the mix of products that have the greatest possible value." I guess the guy can't read his own links.

Loye Young http://www.iycc.biz Laredo, Texas
About ever link Rob points to says the opposite of what he claims it says. Even the link about RMS giving Bill Gates the "binary four". RMS gave a sign with Bill's name on it the binary four, not Bill himself (that would have been a riot!)
If RMS ever does give BG the 0100, I'll sell the tickets at US$1.00 each. And no doubt I'll make a small fortune.
Loye Young [HYPERLINK@www.iycc.biz] Laredo, Texas

Laredo...? When did you folks get electricity...or do you have a generator. From my last visit, I am guessing the latter...

Just kidding,,,I know you have electricity...and I've heard that since my last visit, lots of you even have indoor plumbing. It's the internet service that I'm surprised about.

Excellent points btw....made by candle light or not.

h

Who is UnAmerican? de Tocqueville says...

Alexis de Tocqueville (a most insightful analyst of the American psyche) noted a uniquely American penchant for forming voluntary community associations in order to deal with problems. He further stated that this tendency seems to be found nowhere else on Earth: not in Europe, not in the British Isles, not even in Canada; it was a truly American contribution to human society.

And now the Internet has allowed this uniquely American contribution to spread world-wide, in the form of open source collaborations that have given us Apache, Linux, and a host of other software. It is indeed the Microsofts of the world who are unAmerican, who want to take us all back to a world of king-granted (IP) privilege. (Ask yourself if Sony's recent DRM root-kit and Microsoft's ad-server patent (see http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070717-microsoft-pate...) do not fit the pattern of businesses that think they owns the world, granting their customers only a pittance...)

For what it's worth.

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