LXer 'classics': 101 patents Microsoft may infringe
A database is released today [April 2005 - ed.] at LXer showing patent numbers where parts
of Microsoft might infringe upon. I am not a lawyer, however,
so that doesn't grant Microsoft actually infringes on the patents. The
matter is really too complex and difficult to just mention some
patents and say Microsoft infringes upon them. Background In August 2004, OSDL http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5293039.html">released the results of research
that Linux may infringe 283 patents. Motives “So why this database?” Well, it isn't really meant to scare Microsoft. It's meant to
be able to show to people that Microsoft may infringe patents as well.
Of course, we could be lazy cowards and just simply say: Bashing You may wonder if this is ordinary
Microsoft bashing. There are two answers possible: Some examples To show what I mean with bad patents, let's give three examples, in this case Microsoft patents, but IBM et al are also holding such patents.
I hope you're convinced software patents are bad. If this is still not enough, you could visit a patented web shop made by the ffii as a nice example.[Note, some web-services related patents are owned by the Open Invention Network today. Those patents are meant to threat anyone who threatens Linux - ed ] As you can see,
anybody writing an OS with applications, could infringe upon his
ideas, even if he invented the named ideas himself and never saw
the “prior art”. How you can help Now, you might think finding patents which Microsoft might infringe is difficult. That's not true, although it isn't easy either. But anybody with some imagination could find a patent Microsoft might infringe upon, especially if they use Microsoft's software / have used it for some time. There are two methods: First way: Using a search engine:
Second way: Being creative
Add comments to the entries It's nice to make write comments so normal people (not lawyers) can understand what the patents are about, in human language, if necessary. The titles are normally rather vague. For this reason, the database has a "add a comment" feature where you can write in whatever notes you like. Contact If you have any questions, start a tread at this article, or http://lxer.com/members/mail/mail.php?user=hkwint">send a message to my LXer account (http://lxer.com/members/member/hkwint/">hkwint). I hope I can answer them soon. |
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Comments (14)
Where is the database?
Since less than thousand people have read the story, I think people aren't that interested, but I liked to provide it again anyway.
Quoting:I didn't even know we had such an animal.
Probably the db is not that famous because I'm not named S.Ballmer. Nonetheless, I spent more than a month (when I was very ill) on it, and really read parts - at least all summaries - of _all_ those patents in the db. Phew, that was a tough job (mainly because of the formal language, and English words not familiar to me), but it gave me a good understanding about software patents. I encourage anyone who wants to know a tiny bit more about software patents to read at least one of those patents, it is very educational and probably won't cost more than half an hour.
I don't think I posted a comment about it at the time, but better late than never. Thanks for your reporting on the EU patent affair hkwint, over the years I've come to appreciate the articles you've written and the information you've bee able to dig up.
I would but I'm lazier than the rest of you.
I could be persuaded to place a small wager on that, if it didn't involve any effort of course. :)
Quoting:I could be persuaded to place a small wager on that, if it didn't involve any effort of course. :)Money is heavy.
sell your m$ stock
When companies pull stunts like this, the vultures smell decaying flesh and start circling. Right now, it smells more like desperation, but that might be Monkey boy's poor hygiene habits and I just happen to be down wind.
Billy's Bungle has used FUD as a marketing tool to such a great extent that it has become laughable. When I heard about this, I figured it was another one of their 'freeze the market' moves. People are moving to Linux and Open Source. This is abundantly clear. This announcement is meant to create paranoia and uncertainty about choosing to use Linux. They need some time to get Vista to work (like that's possible), but want to slow the ever-increasing desertion from the ranks. By doing this, companies that are seriously considering the move to open source and Linux might reconsider and hold off. Or they could get really lucky and have some more Linux folks cough up some cash to pay a tribute to the struggling Borg.
Sorry Bill. It's over. You better have the maintenance guys get all the chairs out of Ballmies' office.
This calls for a poem to celebrate this auspicious event.
There once was a rich kid from Redmond. Who ripped off some software and then some. But eventually folks, Saw his products as jokes, And ignored his lame patent Armageddon.
One last thought. We actually do owe the Bill and Steve show a 'thank you.' Just think about all the free press we're getting out of this.
...and I'm sorry about the poem.
Quoting:Since then their stock has been stuck
The same is true for ABN-Amro (NL's largest banks, one of the largest in Europe). Probably, you know what will happen to ABN: It will (probably) be split up if a consortium of Santander, RBS and Fortis buys it. The Bank of America is angry because it wanted to buy DeSalle which ABN Amro sold to the Bank of America, but the judge in the Netherlands forbid that deal. Especially, companies are willing to buy and split up ABN Amro, because the 'loose parts' are worth more than the "assembly" (especially after getting rid of the parts which are suffering losses) according to some hedge funds like TCI. TCI only owns about 1,5% of ABN, which was enough to start this whole buzz. (Read about the buzz here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABNAMRO#Build_up_to_Acquisition )
I wonder if there are hedge funds owning Microsoft shares, willing to split up Microsoft. Looking at the ABN-Amro example, hedge funds could manage to do what the US judge couldn't.
Quoting:Hello, Wall Street! Are you getting any of this?The first Wall Street guy which has knowledge about computer technology still has to be born probably.
Quoting:They need some time to get Vista to work (like that's possible)
Vienna was already announced, so when Vista works, Vienna might be ready. I guess this is an acknowledgment of Microsoft that Vista sucks.
Quoting:Sorry Bill. It's over.What is interesting is, the Bill Gates Foundation has stocks in medicines. If Microsoft goes to patent war, and the patent system will be reviewed, medicine patents will decline in value which is bad for Bill Gates.
I really hope patent armageddon arrives soon, which will rid the world of patent trolls (in which Microsoft is degenerating as I write). I wonder if it will be covered live on TV like the second Gulf War, but it wil be spectacular I hope.
BTW Is it forbidden to send mails to Wall Street analysts including your first paragraph? If not, we should collect all current MS failures (and 'ODF laws') and provide links, and then send those to some Wall Street analysts. Which reminds me I still have to send a mail to NEN (Dutch Standard Institute) asking them about OpenXML/ISOisation and their voting.
It has steadily increased, while MSFT, a stock on the Nadaq, has not. That would mean that Microsoft is really losing value, compared to the average on the index.
Was the Dutch Judge really blocking the sale of LaSalle bank by ABN Amro, or just requiring that ABN would have to get stock holder approval? http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-070509abn,1,43021...
I thought that ABN had wanted to do the sale quick, and was trying to avoid the lengthy, and possibly revealing, stockholder approval process. I had many friends here in Chicago laid off of work when ABN outsourced the entire IT department from LaSalle.
The judge is making them follow the corporate rules for the Netherlands, not the U.S. rules.
Funny that you mention bank of america.
I had an MBNA linuxfund mastercard that I used on occasion and now bank of america had bought them and sent me a lettter that they are not doing business with linuxfund anymore.
I said fine close my account.
never did like bank of america and especially don't like them now.
We in the computer field tend to forget about inflation, because our hardware (being relatively free of government regulation) is still "cheaper faster better" every year, even including inflation.
http://www.mises.org/story/2558
A little economics goes a loooooong way.
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